Commissioner District 1 Katie Delaney , Commissioner District 2

Tom Goodson, Commissioner District 3 Kim Adkinson,

Commissioner District 4 Rob Feltner, and Commissioner District 5

Thad Altman

Present:

CALL TO ORDER 9:00 AM

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Thad Altman, District 5

Commissioner Altman led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.

MINUTES FOR APPROVAL: December 12, 2024 Zoning Meeting; December 17,

2024 Regular Meeting

The Board approved the December 12, 2024, Zoning Meeting, and the December 17, 2024,

Regular Meeting Minutes.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Tom Goodson

Seconder: Thad Altman

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman

E.1. Resolution recognizing March 2025 as Bleeding Disorders Awareness Month -

District 5

Commissioner Altman read aloud, and the Board adopted Resolution No. 25-012, recognizing

March 2025 as Bleeding Disorders Awareness Month.

Result: ADOPTED

Mover: Thad Altman

Seconder: Kim Adkinson

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman

Samantha Nazario, Bleeding Foundation of Florida, stated this was a pet project of her and

former Commissioner Smith, so this is amazing that here they are seven years later still helping

spread awareness in Brevard County; she is a mother of a 25-year old son with Von Willebrand

Disease; her son was diagnosed at six years old; and without their local and national chapter,

she would have never became an advocate. She went on to say she knows many of the

Commissioners in the community, and Commissioner Altman from Tallahassee; she is an

advocate on a national level; no one really realizes that bleeding disorders affect everyone’s

lives; for example, in the early ‘90s at the height of the AIDS crisis, they helped pass a law

called the Ricky Ray Law, so any blood product one may receive, a blood donation, plasma

product, or any kind of blood product, the hemophilia fought for that for every one of them after

losing over 20,000 members of their community due to tainted blood; and if anyone has ever

had a surgery and needed a blood product, they saved their lives in 1998 by passing the Ricky

Ray Law. She advised as a mom who lives in Brevard County, proudly for 22 years, her son’s

medication cost an absorbent amount of money; one dose is $16,000; it takes 13 donations of

plasma for one dose of medication; there are no generics in their situation; he has been

protected under the Affordable Care Act (ACA), thank goodness, because at the age of eight

years old, he had almost capped out on his $1 million lifetime, which was what they used to

have prior to the ACA; she implored everyone to educate oneself about the true meaning of the

ACA, what it does for everyone; if one has a child with diabetes, asthma, and COVID; and it

protects everyone and ensures that he or she is not just worth a million dollars, they are worth a

lot more in a lifetime. She commented she is grateful to live in a community that recognizes that

awareness is important; this community has been so supportive; her son created a t-shirt called

team Tyler, they are both wearing it right now; he has raised over a million dollars over the last

decade for bleeding disorder awareness, so anything is possible, and any dream is possible;

she is grateful to live in a County where everyone is always so quick to pitch in an help; she

expressed her appreciation to the Board for giving them this proclamation for the seventh year

in a row; and she noted they are so blessed to live in a County like Brevard.

Commissioner Altman expressed his appreciation to Ms. Nazario for bringing awareness; when

he was in elementary school, they learned a lot about European history and royalty; it was

pretty famous that many of the royal families in the crown in Europe, British, Russia, Spain,

Prussia, had bleeding disorders.

Ms. Nazario advised going back to the czars of Russia; it is a blue blood disease; and Queen

Victoria lost three children before the age of three to hemophilia.

Commissioner Altman stated he hopes they are still teaching that in school; and maybe the

Board needs to talk to its legislators, or the School Board, and get that back.

Ms. Nazario pointed out that Brevard County is the only school district in the country that

recognizes Bleeding Disorder Awareness Month.

EXECUTIVE SESSION, RE: FIREFIGHTERS UNION

Chairman Feltner explained before the Board gets to the Consent Agenda, just a quick update

from last week; there was negotiation with the Firefighters Union; today the Board is requesting

to do a special session, or executive session; after the Regular meeting, the Board will take a

15-minute break; he will need to sign some things; and then the Board will go upstairs and

meet in the County Manager’s office.

The Board approved an Executive Session regarding negotiations with the Firefighters Union,

to be held after the February 25, 2025, Regular Board meeting.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Kim Adkinson

Seconder: Katie Delaney

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman

ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA

Commissioner Delaney stated she would like to pull Items F.7. and F.9. from the Consent

Agenda for discussion.

F.1. Adopt Resolution and Release Performance Bond: North Island Villas (FNA

Crisafulli Townhome Subdivision) - District 2

Developer: North Island Villas (FL) Owner IV, LLC

The Board executed and adopted Resolution No. 25-013, releasing the Contract and Surety

Performance Bond dated May 9, 2023, for North Island Villas (FNA Crisafulli Townhome

Subdivision) – Developer: North Island Villas (FL) Owner IV, LLC.

Result: ADOPTED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.2. Approval, Re: Donation by Warranty Deed from Phyllis J. Di Medio for a Parcel of

Land Described as Tax Account Number 2000993 in Mims - District 1

The Board approved accepting donation by Warranty Deed from Phyllis J. Di Medio to Brevard

County, for a parcel of land described as Tax Account Number 2000993 in Mims.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.3. Sole Source Request with TSC Jacobs North, Inc. for Wastewater Treatment

Plant Blower Repair Services and Replacement (countywide).

The Board approved the $500,000 for the Sole Source Request for repair services and blower

replacement from TSC Jacobs North, Inc., the sole source representative of Hoffman and

Universal Blower Pac.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Tom Goodson

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.4. Request Permission to Issue Invitation to Bid for Ritch Grissom Memorial

Wetlands Maintenance Contractor (District 4).

The Board approved granting Purchasing Services, on behalf of the Utility Services

Department, permission to competitively procure and aware an Invitation to Bid for Ritch

Grissom Memorial Wetlands (the Wetlands) Maintenance Contractor; and authorized the

County Manager to execute, as necessary, all contract amendments, and any pay extensions,

Budget Change Requests (BCR), and change orders, upon review by the County Attorney’s

Office, Risk Management, and Purchasing Services.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.5. Request permission to execute Certification of Financial Responsibility for Local

Government required by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection

(FDEP) for a New Deep Injection Well Permit Application at the South Brevard

Water and Wastewater Treatment Facilities (District 3).

The Board approved and authorized the County Manager to sign, on behalf of Brevard County,

the Certificate of Financial Responsibility for Local Government associated with the permitting

of two (2) deep injection wells at the proposed South Brevard Water and Wastewater

Treatment facility.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.6. Approval for the Florida Local Government Finance Commission (FLGFC) to

issue private activity bonds for Westminster Retirement Community, Inc.

The Board adopted Resolution No. 25-014, approving the issuance by FLGFC of conduit

revenue bonds on behalf of Westminster Retirement Community, Inc. for the financing and

refinancing facilities, of which one facility is located within Brevard County.

Result: ADOPTED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.8. Resolution approving the issuance by Brevard County Housing Finance Authority

of Single Family Mortgage Revenue Bonds or, in the alternative, the issuance of

Mortgage Credit Certificates, or in the alternative, the issuance of Multifamily

Revenue Bonds during 2026 through 2028

The Board adopted Resolution No. 25-015, as requested by the Brevard County Housing

Finance Authority, to allow the Authority to apply for an allocation with the Florida Division of

Bond Finance and to allow for the future issuance by the Authority of single-family mortgage

revenue bonds, or in the alternative, issuance of mortgage credit certificates, or in the

alternative, issuance of multifamily revenue bonds during 2026 through 2028.

Result: ADOPTED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.10. Appointment(s) / Reappointment(s)

The Board appointed/reappointed Robert Crisfield to the Building and Construction Advisory

Committee, with term of appointment expiring February 25, 2027; Kevin Gholston to the Citizen

Budget Review Committee, with term expiring February 25, 2027; Elaine Cook as alternate and

Patrick Ripton to the Contractors’ Licensing Board, with terms expiring December 31, 2026 and

February 25, 2027 respectively; Robert Triebell to the Marine Advisory Council, with term

expiring February 25, 2027; and Greg Nicklas to the Planning and Zoning Board/Local Planning

Agency, with term expiring February 25, 2027.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.11. Bill Folder

The Board acknowledged receipt of the Bill Folder.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.7. Request approval to Advertise a Request for Proposal for State Lobbying

Services

Kathy Wall, Central Services Director, stated it is requested that the Board approve the

following items: approve to advertise a Request for Proposal (RFP) for the County lobbying

services, pursuant to Board Policy BCC-25; appointment of the following members to a

selection and negotiating committee, Jim Liesenfelt, Assistant County Manager, Community

Services Group, Jill Hayes, County Budget Director, and Virginia Barker, Natural Resources

Management Director; and approve the selection and negotiating committee to negotiate terms

of a professional contracts and bring back the negotiated contract back to the Board for its

consideration.

Commissioner Altman commented he assumes this will need to be done quickly, because the

Legislature will be going into session, they have already started committee meetings, and there

has been a deadline for appropriations; and he asked if the Board is up against a time limit.

Ms. Wall replied the County currently have a contract with Book for these services; and this will

not be effective until when.

Ms. Wall responded she believes it is the summer.

Commissioner Altman stated it would not affect what the County has now.

Ms. Wall replied right.

Frank Abbate, County Manager, stated not this legislative session.

Commissioner Altman advised he saw that.

Mr. Abbate pointed out the County was under a one-year contract from last year; the Board

approved it to get the County through this legislative session, so staff is just anticipating for the

next year.

Chairman Feltner stated quite candidly, he remembers this conversation to give the new Board

the opportunity to be a part of this discussion; but also that Board was expecting that Ron Book

would retire at some point; and Commissioner Altman and he has known Mr. Book for a long

time, and it is no harder than that.

Commissioner Altman noted having been there 21 years, he does a phenomenal job, his staff

as well; they are one of the hardest working, maybe the hardest working group of lobbyists; and

the County gets its bang for its buck, so he is glad the County has them.

Chairman Feltner noted the County is fortunate to have them.

Commissioner Delaney stated the only reason she wanted to pull this was because when she

was looking in the scope of work in the Contract, she saw a lot of emphasis on economic

development and the space industry; while that is great, the County wants to keep that going,

she would really love to see an emphasis on appropriations and the County’s infrastructure,

going out for that help from the State; and she just wanted to throw that out there.

Chairman Feltner remarked he appreciates what it may say in the Contract, but in all candor,

he represents the County on whatever the Board gives him direction to do each year; and he

asked just as a quick aside, over the last five years what does the County Manager think, and

he will not hold him to it, but to estimate the kind of appropriations that has been received here

in Brevard County.

Mr. Abbate responded he is involved in virtually all of it; as a matter of fact, what he would say

is depending on what the Board approves as part of the legislative package becomes his focus;

he helps the County; most of those items, if one looks at them, they are all appropriation,

virtually all of them; up to now staff’s experience has been that his staff helps them focus on

the items that the leadership has indicated are the parameters of what he or she are going to

be looking for, so some items are deprioritized because staff is told that the leadership has said

nothing of this sort is going to get passed this year; that is the kind of relationship staff has with

him; he does focus on what the Board approves, as part of the leadership package; and

whoever the County goes with in the future, his assumption would be that it would continue in

that vein. He added, the other thing staff will do, of course, is whoever is selected, staff will look

at the contract that will be coming back to the Board for presentation, so the Board will have a

shot to look at it there once the screening and selection committee makes a recommendation,

negotiates it, the final contract, and staff will make sure that is emphasized.

Chairman Feltner advised something also that it may not say it in there, but with having

somebody like Ron Book, or a competent lobbyist for the County up there in session is there

are things that come up in the middle of the night, and there are amendments that happen the

next morning; sitting up here with two former members, Commissioners Altman and Goodman

know how this goes; the Board has somebody who is there ready to answer those things for it

immediately; and he asked if that is all satisfactory.

The Board approved advertisement of a RFP for the County’s lobbying services, pursuant to

Board Policy BCC-25; appointed a Selection and Negotiating Committee consisting of Jim

Liesenfelt, Assistant County Manager, Community Services Group, Jill Hayes, County Budget

Director, and Virginia Barker, Natural Resources Management Director; and approved the

Selection and Negotiating Committee to negotiate terms of a professional service contract and

bring the negotiated contract back to the Board for its consideration.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Thad Altman

F.9. Firing Range and Training Building Agreement between Sheriff, Eastern Florida

State College, and Brevard County

Morris Richardson, County Attorney, commented the subject of F.9. is the request from the

Brevard County Sheriff’s Office (BCSO) that the Board approve an agreement between the

County, Sheriff, and Eastern Florida State College regarding the Five Palms Farm on

Pluckebaum in Cocoa; the County owns the land there and leases it to the Sheriff, pursuant to

a lease that currently runs through October of this year; Eastern Florida State College (EFSC),

formerly Brevard Community College (BCC), has used the northern most firing range and an

associated training building at the farm for its police training academy for more than 20 years;

after decades of that use by the Sheriff and the Brevard County law enforcement community in

general, the range is currently in a state of disrepair and needs some capital improvements in

order to be able to return to operational use, including the replacement and repair of the

existing backstop in berm and the installation of an advanced lead mitigation system. He went

on by saying this agreement provides that the Sheriff would take over those operations that

were historically EFSC; the Sheriff will fund and complete the required capital improvements to

the range, and resume the operational use of the range; the Sheriff already operates an

associated shoot house, which is a 360-degree, ballistically-safe firearms training environment

associated with that farm out there; the Sheriff also intends to install a driving pad for training at

the farm; EFSC is willing to transfer their rights and obligations regarding the range and training

building over to the Sheriff; under the proposed agreement, EFSC will be permitted use and

access to the range, training building, shoot house, and driving pad based upon request and

availability, with priority being given to police training academy courses; the Sheriff has

indicated to him that BCSO will realize savings; and that currently, dues they have to pay

annually to EFSC for use of those facilities, they will no longer pay.

Commissioner Adkinson stated it says that the Sheriff will assume responsibility for operating

and maintaining the site; and she asked does that mean as the site ages, Brevard County

taxpayers will be assuming that responsibility, and if they do now.

Attorney Richardson responded currently EFSC maintains that portion, or does not maintain as

it is not currently operational, that portion, so currently the answer is no; going forward, the

answer would be that it would be part of the Sheriff’s budget; now, there are sources of funding

within the Sheriff’s budget that are not necessarily taxpayer or General Fund types of sources,

such as forfeiture funds and things like that; he is not able to answer what buckets of funding

the Sheriff envisions using for these improvements, whether there are any grant agreements

involved or anything like that; and he does not have that information.

Commissioner Adkinson mentioned she thinks the improvements are not as much of her

concern as the going forward and the maintenance of it; she just wanted to be able to point that

out that it is . . .

Attorney Richardson pointed out it would certainly be part of the Sheriff’s recurring budget; and

now, again, how he funds that within the budget, he does not know the answer to that.

Chairman Feltner asked if this is part of what is called the farm.

Attorney Richardson replied affirmatively.

Chairman Feltner stated he thinks he understands, and to correct him if he is wrong, that

inmates are a big part of maintaining that.

Attorney Richardson advised he believes so.

Chairman Feltner noted he thinks that has been ongoing for quite a number of years.

Commissioner Delaney expressed her appreciation to the Board for going through this with her;

she stated she just thought this was like a public interest item, and she got some inquiries

about it; she just figured that might be other people that were interested; this is, she felt, a good

opportunity to give a shout out to the Sheriff, the work that he does, and the partnerships that

he has maintained; and this sounds like this is going to be a good thing to train the County’s

people, and good opportunities.

The Board approved and authorized the Chairman to execute Firing Range and Training

Building Agreement between Eastern Florida State College, Brevard County Sheriff’s Office,

and Brevard County; and authorized the County Manager to execute any amendments and

other contract-related documents associated with the Agreement.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Kim Adkinson

PUBLIC COMMENTS (Individuals may not speak under both the first and second

public comment sections.)

Sandra Sullivan stated what an amazing time they have with Department of Government

Efficiency (DOGE) at the Federal level, the satisfaction of the people to start cutting wasteful

spending; now yesterday, with the Governor, they have DOGE at the State level; he is even

going to look at local governments; Brevard County needs a DOGE; there needs to be a DOGE

of common sense; and the County needs to stop doing ‘we the money’ taxation, and giving

special interests a break in order to limit the tax increases on ‘we the people’. She commented

there was a budget workshop last week, and it was not a pretty picture; the County is looking at

$2.2 billion of cost for transportation; there is a fiscal crisis; every one of the proposed taxations

were to increase the taxation on ‘we the people’; she asked what is being left behind; she

advised she was just aghast with the statement by the director; and it is only the unincorporated

areas that the County collects impact fees for transportation, so when there is a road through a

city, like Wickham Road, which is mostly Melbourne, unincorporated is picking that up. She

provided the Board with a picture showing this is how much money the County has and how

much it needs; she stated that is not even really, when counting the analysis, what is coming;

the County has about 200 percent increases in costs; yet, the Board has not increased impact

fees in 25 to 30 years; that is irresponsible, that is DOGE; if the County wants to stop the

taxation on the people, it needs to do the right thing; there needs to be fair taxation; that means

special interests pay their fair share; that includes space; the County is not taxing them; and by

all of the Federal Agreements she has looked at, including the one given to her by the Property

Appraiser, it says the local level has the right to collect taxes when there are Federal lands

leased to private entities. She pointed out the Board is giving away the farm, yet it just keeps

on putting taxes on ‘we the people’; when the people have inflation, the property taxes go up,

the sales tax goes up, and they are being squeezed; and all the Board wants to do is tax the

people more and more.

I.1.

Request Approval to Advertise a Request for Proposal for Fire/Rescue Facilities

and Emergency Medical Services Facilities Impact Fee Update Study

Kathy Wall, Central Services Director, commented I.1. is a request for the Board to advertise

an RFP for Fire/Rescue Facilities and EMS Facilities Impact Fee Study; to appoint a selection

and negotiation committee consisting of Jill Hayes, County Budget Director, Billy Prasad,

Interim Director of Planning and Development Department, and Deputy Fire chief Klein, Fire

Rescue Department; and to approve the selection and negotiation committee to negotiate

terms of the professional services contract and bring it back to the Board for its consideration.

Commissioner Delaney stated she is not sure if this is the time to bring this up; she had a

question about if the Board would consider reconsidering this and going with the

comprehensive study; from what she has been looking at, the return on investment with this is

not very large when it comes to just going for the Fire/EMS impact fee study; but when looking

at the comprehensive study, it is considerable; and she asked if Mr. Prasad would mind

chiming in on that.

Mr. Prasad explained a four-year look ahead for the Fire and EMS, the study cost staff

estimated at $190,000, with a return of $329,521 in new revenue; and comparing that to if staff

did all of the impact fee districts, as Commissioner Delaney said a comprehensive study, the

estimated study costs is $498,000, but the estimated increase in fees received over the same

four-year period is $10,278,161.

Commissioner Delaney asked what that would look like as far as a year five to 10 estimated.

Mr. Prasad replied so this would be a growth from five to 10 because he has no way of

predicting development trends five to 10 years out; for the EMS new revenue over 10 years it

would be estimated $863,000; and for the comprehensive, at 50 percent, it is an increase in

fees of $70.5 million over ten years.

Frank Abbate, County Manager, mentioned he wanted to add one thing that one option, if the

Board decides to consider this, is it could modify the existing RFP for the current study; then,

ask them as an option what it would be if the Board did a comprehensive one, so the Board

would have the two fees to compare, one just for Fire/EMS, and another one for Fire/EMS and

everything else; and the Board can make a decision at that point if the Board so chooses.

Commissioner Altman advised he missed the beginning of what the cost of the Fire impact fee

study and the return was; and he got the second group of numbers.

Mr. Prasad remarked for the estimated cost for the Fire/EMS is $190,000, with four-year return

of increase of $329,521.

Mr. Abbate stated he does not think staff gave the Board that, but a cost estimate based on

jurisdictions that have recently done it was between $450,000 and $500,000 to do the

comprehensive study, which would include all of them.

Sandra Sullivan stated to do the comprehensive one would just make her day, would make her

month, and would make her year; she has been advocating on this for about five years; the

biggest segment that brings in the most amount of money is transportation; to put it in

perspective, in 2016, when the Board previously looked at the last study, it recommended a 67

percent increase for transportation; and it was not done. She went on by saying it has put the

County in a crisis by kicking that can down the road another 10 years; two years ago the

budget was $800 million for capacity needs; the County is at $1.2 million now for capacity

needs; the Board’s plan is to put all of the burden on the people; it needs to do this to have fair

taxation, because the people are going to get upset when all the Board does is tax the people

and not taxing special interests fairly; and the people see that. She noted there was a meeting

two years ago with the City of West Melbourne with Commissioner Feltner and Mr. Abbate; it

was brought up that there was no interlocal agreement; she has done a records request; there

is no interlocal agreement to collect from the municipalities that the County is providing fire

services to; some of these areas have had tremendous growth; and the County is just throwing

away millions of dollars. She mentioned this impact issue is one of the biggest issues that

needs to be addressed in the County; she showed the Board a copy of her records request that

she had confirming that Fire impact fees have not been collected from the jurisdictions the

County is providing fire services to; the irresponsibility in this County is just overwhelming; she

will call it stupid; stupid needs to be fixed; there needs to be a DOGE in Brevard; and people

need to get to the bottom of what is happening in Brevard, because, quite frankly, what she

sees is it is entirely about not to tax ‘we the money’ and put the taxes on ‘we the people’.

Commissioner Altman explained it is time for him to do his impact fee speech; he supported the

Fire impact fee because he felt the County is facing an eminent crisis; the County is losing its

First Responders, EMS, and Firefighters, and he felt by focusing only on that it does not get

brought up in the larger scale debate impact fees; he will talk a little about larger scale impact

fees; he will vote against impact fee increases; and he does not particularly care for impact

fees at all. He went on to say what has really helped him come to that decision over time is

having children, then having children that become house-buying age, and having children who

want to raise his grandchildren in Brevard County; working through the process of buying a

home is incredibly difficult with the price of housing and the interest rates; then throw in impact

fees on top of that makes it almost impossible for many families; ultimately, some of those kids

and families move away from Brevard, so that special interest that is being talked about are the

children that are trying to get into a home; that special interest are families, young couples that

get married and want to raise a family, so if that is the special interests being talked about, and

that is what he is talking about, he supports them; and he thinks home buying needs to be

made affordable. He pointed out in Tallahassee probably one of the most common things heard

about is the need for more affordable housing, so he really does not like the idea of the larger

impact fee study; the point about the cost return that staff has brought up is excellent; maybe

the cost return is not really the way to go; talking about transportation and what is more

equitable in Brevard residents, 50 to 70 percent of gas tax fees are paid for non-Brevard

residents; the County has this huge income provider called I-95; it has a 72-mile long family; if

the County really wants to raise money for transportation in a real effective way and look out for

Brevard residents, maybe it should consider a tax revenue source that Brevard residents pay a

very small percentage of, the folks passing through; and he would challenge anybody to the

benefit to Brevard residents and how it could save them money and provide. He noted he is just

not there; he respects others views and he understands them; but it is a burden on a lot of

first-time homebuyers and families; he thinks it is probably kind of expensive to administer; the

money is more difficult to expend because of the restrictions on it, so he is just not a fan; and

that is an issue that, he thinks he was on the Commission in the ‘80s when the Board passed

its first impact fees. He stated those numbers were very small then, and the restrictions of how

it is spent even more so; but he thinks as those numbers have grown and the costs of buying

homes have increased, it is too punitive for American’s wanting to achieve the American

dream.

Commissioner Goodson asked when the last time impact fees were raised or whatever.

Mr. Prasad replied 2001.

Commissioner Goodson stated the Board hears people say 30 years ago, so in 2001 they were

raised.

Mr. Prasad advised that is when the current impact fee schedule the Board uses was

implemented for all but education, yes.

Commissioner Delaney remarked she just wanted to give another opinion; while she respects

where Commissioner Altman is coming from, she is of the opinion that the market dictates the

home prices, and she honestly feels the real culprit for the unaffordable housing crisis has to do

with homeowners insurance and interest rates; she was sitting in this room a few months ago

when the Sherwood fight was going on; she was in that back row sitting next to somebody that

she found out was a developer; he literally leaned over to her and said the County really needs

to update its impact fees; and that really shook her that somebody who is a developer is

actually sitting here telling her that Brevard County is so far behind. She pointed out it is going

to take the whole community, it is going to take every piece of every interest to get Brevard

County where it needs to be; it will take the public, the developers; it has to be fixed; and the

County is so far behind, unless the State is willing to send the County a few billion dollars,

which would be cool. She stated she does not see that happening; the County has already lost

out on about 20-plus years of potential impact fees; with the explosion of Viera, the south end

of the County, and all of these different areas, the Board has lost out on that money, and it can

never get that back; she really feels passionately that the market is going to dictate how much

these homes are; if the homes are sitting, they will bring their prices down even if their impact

fees go up, because at the end of the day, they want to sell their houses; and hopefully the

Board can come to a resolution.

Commissioner Altman mentioned he thinks everyone hates taxes; by looking at taxes, the worst

taxes are the ones that cannot be avoided, such as income taxes, property taxes, and impact

fees; they cannot be avoided if a person wants a home; other consumption-based taxes,

consumers cannot avoid them; they can adjust and they can alter, and they do not have to pay

those, as they can kind of move their family budget around them; he puts this in the category

that actually taxes really good behavior; and it is impossible to avoid.

Commissioner Delaney stated she wanted to make a motion to include going out for RFP for

the comprehensive and for the Fire/EMS.

Chairman Feltner advised he thinks there was a suggestion that maybe that the County can go

out for this, and as part of that RFP to say what it would cost in addition to this; and he asked if

that is the way Commissioner Delaney wants to do it.

Commissioner Delaney replied affirmatively.

Chairman Feltner asked Mr. Abbate to say that one more time so the Board is clear on what

the motion would be.

Mr. Abbate stated staff would expand the current draft of the RFP to include a second option,

which would be a comprehensive study that would cover all impact fees as part of the study.

Commissioner Adkinson stated she seconded the motion.

The Board approved advertisement of a RFP for Fire/Rescue Facilities and EMS Facilities

Impact Fee Update Study; approved a second option to expand the current draft of the RFP to

include a Comprehensive Study covering all impact fees as part of the Study; appointed a

Selection and Negotiation Committee consisting of Jill Hayes, County Budget Director, Billy

Prasad, Interim Director of the Planning and Development Department; and Deputy Fire Chief

Thomas Klein, Fire Rescue Department; and approved the Selection and Negotiation

Committee to negotiate terms of the professional services contract and bring it back to the

Board for its consideration.

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Kim Adkinson

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, and Feltner

Nay: Altman

Chairman Feltner stated to be clear, that is just an option, and the Board is going to have to

decide again.

J.1. Adoption, RE: A Resolution Dissolving the South/Central Brevard Parks and

Recreation Advisory Board and Creating the South Brevard Parks and Recreation

Advisory Board and the Central Brevard Parks and Recreation Advisory Board

Ian Golden, Parks and Recreation Director, stated the Item before the Board is a request to

consider adoption of a resolution to dissolve the South Central Parks and Recreation Advisory

Board and create two new advisory boards, a South Parks and Recreation Advisory Board and

a Central Parks and Recreation Advisory Board; this is following a request or direction from the

January 14, 2025, Commission meeting for this action; attached to the Agenda Item is a

resolution resending the two Resolutions that created that combined board, as well as creation

of the two new boards; it allows for the membership of both boards to be seven members; the

South Board will be consisting of three members appointed by District 3, two members

appointed by District 4, and two from District 5; and the Central Board’s recommendation is five

members from District 2, two members from District 1, and those allocations of membership

were based on Parks facilities and services. He pointed out the resolution also aligns both

advisory boards with the section of County Code regarding the uniform advisory boards.

Commissioner Adkinson stated she is excited that District 3 gets to have a voice again.

Sandra Sullivan stated she just wanted to point out that the County had a referendum in 2000

and a referendum in 2006 for three parks, so they are all separate; this should have never been

combined in the first place, legal should have caught that, in her opinion; she wants to give

kudos to District 2 for bringing this forward; this is awesome to have the separate boards; and

she would also ask the Commission to consider restoring and allowing County advisory boards

to meet on a more frequent basis, now they are quarterly. She went on to say there is not a lot

of work, especially for the budget workshop board, but also such boards as this; she would like

consideration of other changes such as alternate members so they can more easily reach

quorum, and enforcing more readily the term limits on the boards; she asked the Board to

review the changes that were made as they were very unfavorable, which upset a lot of people

in the County; it is essentially shutting down the voice of the people; and these advisory boards

were created with the intent with a desire, they are Department of Government Efficiency

(DOGE). She noted she also heard of a request by the budget workshop board being told that

they have to pay for records requests; when these boards make records requests, she would

encourage the Board to also make the change that they are exempt, because that is their job;

they are doing DOGE; this is part of what DOGE is, these advisory boards; and when the

County shuts down the people, their voices, and obstructs them having records, that is not

transparency and efficiency in this County.

The Board adopted Resolution No. 25-016, dissolving the South/Central Brevard Parks and

Recreation Advisory Board and creating the South Brevard Parks and Recreation Advisory

Board, creating the Central Brevard Parks and recreation Advisory Board; and approved the

Board to appoint new members for each respective Advisory Board as designated within the

Resolution.

Result: ADOPTED

Mover: Katie Delaney

Seconder: Kim Adkinson

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman

J.2. Adoption, Re: 2025-2035 Transit Development Plan for Space Coast Area Transit.

Terry Jordan, Transit Services Director, stated this is for the transit development plan for the

Fiscal Year 2025-2035; this is a plan that is required by the Florida Department of

Transportation (FDOT) in order for Transit Services to receive State funds; it is a 10-year plan

that typically assesses the public transportation needs and gives information on what the

County needs to do in the coming, following years; a major update is required every five years

with annual updates for the years in between; the overall document is about 218 pages, so he

will give a quick synopsis of the overall document itself; and also any major service changes

that are being requested have to be in this plan. He continued by saying the purpose of this

plan, there are some elements, and one of the elements is the public engagement and

stakeholder outreach; as the Board can see on the screen, there is numerous outreaches,

which guarantee a total of over 1,000 participants, which include public workshops, stakeholder

interviews, and rider surveys of passengers who utilize the service; this next slide shows the

common themes from the outreach that was completed to include better sidewalks, increases

in stop amenities, more frequent service, and more direct routes for individuals to get to their

destinations; and the Board will also see the riders requests and how many destinations and

origins for the typical passengers utilizing the service. He commented the proposed service

changes for the near-term and long-term are listed on this slide to include options for various

routes throughout the entire County; once again, this is a planning document for any major

service improvements should they be implemented; staff is not committed to anything

specifically, but if there is a need to implement any of the services, it has to be included in this

document; and with that, he asked that the Board to accept and approve the Transit Services

Plan.

Commissioner Delaney expressed her appreciation to Mr. Jordan for making this presentation;

she stated when she was on the campaign trail, one of the surprises was how much people

care about transit; this was something she asked him to put together for the Board, because

she knows there are people out there who care about this; and she appreciates Mr. Jordan

taking the time and putting this out for the public.

Sandra Sullivan stated that is great, a five to 10-year plan, but there is not even a five-year plan

for the County; there is a department that has one; that is awesome, so maybe the Board could

take a cue from that; reading the plan, she has an objection from one of the things; it is to plan

to access a range of fleet electrification options, including hybrid, electric, and alternative fuel

vehicles to gradually transition to part of the fleet to cleaner technologies; again, DOGE, as the

County needs to look at the cost benefit analysis when it is making a massive change like that;

and it needs to analyze what the additional cost that, that is going to cost for essentially a loss

liter item, this is in the County. She added, in previous Transportation Planning Organization

(TPO) meetings this question was brought up, and the indication at that time, which was not

long ago, maybe eight months ago, they said they were not going to move to electric; these

vehicles are much more expensive and has much more maintenance; Waste Management

uses natural gas; she asked electrification just because of Green New Deal; she remarked no,

to do a cost benefit analysis before the County makes a massive change like that; and it will

make this department be much more expensive. She explained the other thing she would like

to see is unification of fees for municipalities; there are some municipalities paying $85,000 for

a bus shelter with big belly, and then there are others like Satellite Beach getting it for free, so

the Board picks and chooses based on who its friends are, who is going to get what; and it

should be made fair across the County on what its Policies are, or what it charges for what as a

department.

The Board approved and adopted the 2025-2035 Transit Development Plan for Space Coast

Area Transit for submittal to the Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT).

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Thad Altman

Seconder: Kim Adkinson

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman

J.3. Approval Re: Letter to FDOT requesting reevaluation of project no. 450632-1

(Pedestrian Hybrid Beacon on SR A1A between Hidden Cove Drive and Sea

Dunes Drive)

Commissioner Adkinson advised it came to her attention that FDOT is pretty deep in the

process of creating a pedestrian hybrid beacon down in the South Beaches; they did a study

that determined it was necessary; it was done in 2021; after that study the area was designated

as a State area of critical concern; and the letter she is requesting the Chairman sign, basically

the TPO board at the last meeting signed a very similar letter, that FDOT reevaluate their

current design for proposal to something more in keeping with the area of critical concern,

because one of the things that is supposed to be done down there is enhance the natural

scenic resources to promote the aesthetic benefits of the natural environment; and the County

is also supposed to ensure that development is compatible with the unique characteristics of

the Brevard barrier island. She provided pictures to the Board showing what the beacon is

going to look like; she stated aesthetically this does not enhance a lot; along with the project,

besides the beacon, is a few feet of sidewalk, some lighting enhancements, which they said is

going to be wildlife sensitive, and pedestrian crossing signs, the ones that say ‘Pedestrian

Crossing the next five miles’; and she is asking that the Board ask FDOT to reevaluate this so it

is a little more in keeping with what is going on down there.

Chairman Feltner asked if Commissioner Adkinson had met with Kevin Marquez at FDOT yet.

Commissioner Adkinson replied no.

Chairman Feltner stated he strongly suggested that she have a meeting with him; he is willing

to come from Deland to her office probably, make a day of it in Brevard, and see other

Commissioners; he thinks he is a good guy, and he understands the pedestrian crosswalks; he

does not have a problem with Commissioner Adkinson’s letter today; but he thinks Mr. Marquez

is going to be the quickest path.

Commissioner Delaney asked Commissioner Adkinson if she would not mind, she received an

email from one of her constituents; she thinks they sent it to all of the Commissioners; they

were concerned about this; she asked if Commissioner Adkinson would not mind letting the

Commissioners know if she had seen multiple concerns, or was that the only one.

Commissioner Adkinson replied she has received multiple emails and telephone calls regarding

it; and for some reason the word started getting out just recently, so everybody has been

contacting the office with concerns.

Commissioner Delaney asked for it or against it.

Commissioner Adkinson responded most against it; there are a couple who have been in

support of it; there were a couple of accidents down that way over the last couple of years; but

most people are against the intrusion of such a big arm, not necessarily against pedestrian

safety.

Chairman Feltner advised and not for nothing, he is sure that it will be a lot cheaper.

Commissioner Adkinson pointed out it is $1.3 million; and if she may also say, it is just getting

two gated neighborhoods across A1A to their private beach accesses.

David Vreeland commented he was the one who emailed the Board; it mentions in this study

that there was a fatality crossing A1A; she was a friend of his; it shook up his entire community;

and he took it upon himself to call FDOT requesting some kind of mitigation to help the

residents get across the road safely. He went on to say if one stands traditionally where they

cross the road and look to the left like a good child was always taught to look both ways, it is a

slight curve on A1A, and there is a foliage, so a person can look left and right and start to

cross, then suddenly there is a car right there; he thinks that is what happened to Marilyn; she

had a visual impairment that did not help matters; nevertheless, it killed her; and FDOT said to

him it was going to take a long time, and that the chances were fairly slim that anything could

be done about it, because there are a lot of other projects they have going. He stated a year

and one-half after Marilyn died, another friend of his, at the same spot, was hit and killed; his

name was Dave Clark, a nice man; within a day of his death, he does not remember if it was

before or after, a bicyclist was hit in the same spot, and was killed; he can sympathize with his

neighbors who have sent the Commissioners that they do not like the way it looks, he does not

either; but he asked for God’s sake, if it is not more important to save lives than to bother

people’s aesthetic sense of their surroundings; this is not something they want to change; the

other kinds of crossings with the blinking, yellow lights and so forth, traffic ignores that so very

often; and believe him, very often the traffic is going a lot faster than 45 miles per hour. He

pointed out it does not give a person much time to make a mistake; he will leave the Board with

that; and he prays it will forget about sending a letter to FDOT.

Commissioner Altman advised this is a huge issue; in Satellite Beach they had Sophia Nelson

who was 12 years old tragically killed crossing A1A; that was after the pedestrian crossover

was installed; the actual crossovers can be dangerous if they do not know how to use them;

they were confusing with all of the clutter, so he agrees with what Mr. Vreeland is saying, the

County has to make crossing A1A safer; he lives on A1A; and one of the joys he has is walking

the beach and having that safe crossing. He noted it is probably healthy to take a look at

options to make sure that the County gets the best possible solutions; it was so controversial

when Sophia passed that there became a bill in the legislature, it did not pass, trying to address

these design issues; maybe this will be an opportunity for the Board to work with its

Transportation, Planners, and staff to maybe put something in even better; he did notice, and

he wanted to say, in Sebastian there are some pedestrian crossovers that they have there that

are really nicely done; most of the lights and attention getter is embedded in the concrete; it is

not intrusive; and it does seem to get ones attention more. He stated one of the problems he

thinks of these design standards that are part of the National Transportation Safety Code, and

it kind of limits the County’s engineers and designers ability to be creative and innovative;

maybe this is an opportunity to do something unique and to set some precedent; he reiterated

he supports what Mr. Vreeland is saying; but the County should really take a look. He pointed

out he is committed to making this happen, and maybe the County can do something even

better than the designs that it is seeing; he appreciates the ones in the northern part of the

beaches, north of Fifth Avenue; but there is a national debate, even on the floor of the House,

on these design standards.

Commissioner Delaney stated Commissioner Altman said that so beautifully, and that is exactly

how she feels.

The Board executed and approved sending a Letter to FDOT requesting reevaluation of Project

No. 450632-1 (Pedestrian Hybrid Beacon on SR A1A between Hidden Cove Drive and Sea

Dunes Drive).

Result: APPROVED

Mover: Kim Adkinson

Seconder: Katie Delaney

Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman

L.3. Katie Delaney, Commissioner District 1

Commissioner Delaney stated she wanted to give updates on some of the stuff that she has

been up to the past couple of weeks; she had her first Central Florida Expressway (CFX)

meeting, and a shout out to them; they run a great meeting; there is not much to report in

regards to Brevard County; and most of the stuff that they speak on has to do with more of the

central areas. She went on by saying that later that day was the Transportation Planning

Organization (TPO) meeting, most of the Commissioners were there, so this is more for the

public; some of the things discussed were about the road diets, meaning like shrinking of the

lanes and things like that; it was pretty apparent that all of the elected official around that table

were on the same page that he or she probably would like to see some different ideas coming

about; there was a pretty robust conversation about public participation about getting the public

more involved in the design and what not of the County’s roads; something in her District that

gets talked about a lot is even though it is outside of her District, which is Clearlake Road; and

it is always a topic of conversation. She remarked luckily when she was driving through Lake

Mary, she was on Highway 46, and the road that they were repaving and redoing there were

really nice in her opinion; there were not harsh curbs and things like that, even though there

were other safety things; and that is what she would like to see moving forward in some of

Brevard County’s projects. She expressed her appreciation to the North Parks and Ian Golden,

Parks and Recreation Director, for pulling everybody together; they had a meeting with North

Parks and it was great getting to meet everybody; they do such a great job maintaining the

North Brevard Parks; she was able to go on a tour at the Supervisor of Elections; the

Supervisory of Elections runs a tight ship; the Board should feel really good about its elections

in Brevard County; and he won a national award recently. She commented Eastern Central

Florida Regional Planning Council had their yearly awards, so there was not really much to

report from that; but hopefully at the next meeting she will have more of a report to bring back.

She noted she did want to bring up something to the Board; it was kind of talked about at the

budget workshop; but she wanted to bring up how the County does public participation at the

workshops; when the Board talked at the workshop, nobody was onboard with talking after

each Item, which she was wondering if the Board could compromise to letting people speak at

the beginning and the end, because if somebody comes prepared with a speech, it would be

nice to give them the opportunity to say their peace and move on with their day if they are not

able to stay for the whole three or four hours until the end of the meeting; that is something that

happened to her personally last year; she would like to give them the opportunity to speak at

both, because if people choose to sit through the entire meeting, it would be nice to give them

the respect to let them say their thing that they prepared; and maybe they would have further

thoughts after hearing the presentation; and she asked if there was any Board support for that.

Chairman Feltner asked if Commissioner Delaney is saying both, one, or the other.

Commissioner Delaney replied ideally both.

Commissioner Altman remarked he understands the Board does need a place for public

participation, but this is the opportunity for the Board, and individual Commissioners, to hear

from staff and the complexities of the County’s budget; the Board did not even get through, or

even halfway through; the Board maybe ought to focus time for the Board, and then maybe

some other time for public input, because he just worries it will bog the Board down; actually,

the Board did not have that many questions, as he or she can ask staff personally; but he sees

that as a technical briefing, not as a necessary public hearing, as an opportunity to hear the

nitty-gritty, technical components of the budget, and hear the requests of the Constitutional

Officers.

Commissioner Delaney explained she agrees with that it is really the time for departments to

come to the Board to tell it what their needs are and whatnot; but she also feels like a huge

piece the Board is missing is taking into account the public input to the budget; at the last

meeting there were only two public speakers; she does not know how much time it will actually

take up; this is something near and dear to her heart that she ran on and feels passionate

about is bringing the public into the conversation of how the County is operating, because some

people talk about the people’s apathy, the apathy came from not feeling heard; she is sitting

here right now because the public felt like they were not heard and the things that she is

passionate about; and the that is why her District got behind her, because they finally saw

someone they felt like would listen to them. She stated she just feels like if she gives up on this

message now, she will not be staying true to her word; but she can compromise on, before, or

after if that is something that the Board would do.

Chairman Feltner stated he thinks that is something the Board will ponder a little bit longer

here.

Commissioner Goodson stated it is nice having something on the Agenda that one does not

even have to speak to, yet get a 5:0 vote, so thanks so much.

L.5. Kim Adkinson, Commissioner District 3

Commissioner Adkinson commented she attended her first Indian River Lagoon National

Estuary Program meeting; they elected her their secretary; most of it was so scientific and it is

going to take her a while to figure out all of the stuff that they do; but one of the things she

thought was pretty interesting was a presentation called runoff to resilience smart watersheds;

basically, the idea is to use ponds near the Indian River Lagoon (IRL) to help with flood

management and filtering water before it gets back into the Lagoon; and they are doing a

five-year pilot program, which is privately funded; the reason she thinks that is interesting is

because most of these ponds are going to be located in Brevard, just naturally that is where

they are, so she thought that was pretty interesting. She mentioned she will be attending the

Lagoon Champion Award Celebration, which will be honoring Dr. Duane De Freese, which is on

February 28, 2025; on February 7, 2025, a couple of her staff and her went and toured Promise

in Brevard; if one does not know what it is, he or she should check it out as it is pretty inspiring;

they also had a fundraiser where she bought a purse she does not need; but Promise is a

nonprofit which provides housing and a lot more for young adults with disabilities in the

community; they get a sense of independence, inclusivity, and some work skills; she went there

several years ago, not long after they opened to check it out for a place for her great niece; but

now that it is complete and the residents are there, it is pretty inspiring to go to.

L.6. Thad Altman, Commissioner District 5

Commissioner Altman sated he was at the Transportation Planning Organization (TPO) and

was able to attend the celebration of life; the County lost an amazing public servant who was a

remarkable Brevard County citizen, Paul Gougelman; Commissioner Delaney is going to love

the East Central Florida Regional Planning Council because of the friends he has made in that

organization, and one of them was Paul Gougelman; they served together there in the ‘80s; he

was the city attorney for numerous cities, the TPO attorney, and attorney for the State TPO;

one meets a lot of people in this process; Paul Gougelman was right at the top; and he was an

amazing, compassionate, and giving human being who will be sorely missed. He went on to

say this is almost the 100th day anniversary, he has been careful not to give too many reports,

but one of the more common questions he gets from the public is how he likes to be back on

the Commission; he was here eight years, leaving for over 20 years in the State, and coming

back here; he wants to say that he loves it; he loves the Commission, members, and this is a

remarkable Board with remarkable people; every one of the Commissioners has something

unique to offer; he is enjoying it; and his first 100 days have been very positive. He advised he

is really enjoying working with the staff; it is heartening for him to know having been here in the

‘80s, and his predecessor goes back to the ‘50s when he first ran, to see how far the County

has come; this is a great County; it is probably the only local government, certainly of its size,

that when one picks up their phone and calls County Government, that someone answers the

telephone; and he wants to give a call out for those who really are accessible to the public that

Brevard is very open and accessible. He concluded by saying he knows there has been a lot of

talk about Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) in the State and on the Federal level,

which is great; he loves Elon Musk; but he wants to point out that he believes in that

Jeffersonian principle of government closest to the people governs the best; Brevard’s County

government is incredibly efficient; he found this from a lot of experience that a lot of times

people look at what is happening on a federal level and then they try to apply that same

paradigm to government; as a result, it creates a tremendous amount of harm to local

government that can actually impede the many good things, such as efficiency and providing

services to the people, that one has to be careful that the same is not applied to filters to the

local government than they apply to a very large, ominous, and distant Federal government that

does need to be trimmed down; he does not think there is any coincidence that a lot of those

that are pushing DOGE are talking about the money that is saved to put it down to local and

State government; as a matter of fact, President Trump wants to do away with the Department

of Education; he wants to take the money and give it right down to the states; and when talking

about giving it to the states, one is basically talking about giving it to school boards, so Brevard

is not a part of that problem, it needs to continue what it is doing, and maybe work hard to sell

the message showing and demonstrating to the public how it is providing incredible services

and saving money. He noted that is first 100-day report; he is really enjoying working with this

Board and the staff; and it is a great honor to be here.

Commissioner Goodson stated he could not top Commissioner Altman if he tried; and it is the

best BS he ever heard.

L.7. Rob Feltner, Commissioner District 4, Chairman

Chairman Feltner noted the Board sure appreciates positive comments. He stated he has a

couple of things; first, Ian Golden, Parks and Recreation Director, is in the box; the Veteran’s

reunion is coming up in Wickham Park; he thinks that is a very important community event; and

Mr. Golden has something.

Mr. Golden advised after some research, the County does have the ability to request to see if it

could figure out a way to help Veterans from out of County who do not have access to the

resident fees for camping to see if it can provide a discount; and after research, staff found that

in the Ordinance in the County’s Code of Ordinances, Chapter 78, under Parks and Recreation

Fees, there is language that allows the camping fees to be waived from time-to-time by the

Department Director, so after discussion, and after conversations with the Commissioner, staff

is looking at putting in place for this event a 25 percent discount for camping fees for the

Veterans for that traveling wall event.

Chairman Feltner expressed his appreciation to Mr. Golden; he stated that is a great

community event; the Board had kind of gone through the exercise of trying to appropriate

some monies that were left in the Tourist Development Council (TDC) for some of the smaller

events that kind of fell through the new category of what qualifies and what does not;

Commissioner Altman and he each came up with two, so he is going to amend his prior

request, he would like to have another crack at this, because he thinks these are, again, good

community events; Commissioner Altman put Field Manor and also Green Gables; he had put

Native Rhythms that is in Wickham Park, and also the Melbourne Art Show; and both are free