Brevard County Board of County Commissioners  
2725 Judge Fran Jamieson Way  
Viera, FL 32940  
Minutes  
Tuesday, August 12, 2025  
5:00 PM  
Regular  
Commission Chambers  
A.  
CALL TO ORDER 5:00 PM  
Rollcall  
Commissioner District 1 Katie Delaney , Commissioner District 2  
Tom Goodson, Commissioner District 3 Kim Adkinson,  
Commissioner District 4 Rob Feltner, and Commissioner District 5  
Thad Altman  
Present:  
C.  
D.  
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Tom Goodson, District 2  
Commissioner Goodson led the assembly in the Pledge of Allegiance.  
MINUTES FOR APPROVAL: July 3, 2025 Special Meeting; July 17, 2025 Zoning  
Meeting  
The Board approved the July 3, 2025, Special meeting minutes and the July 17, 2025, Zoning  
meeting minutes.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Thad Altman  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
E.1. Resolution, RE: Aging Matters in Brevard’s 60 Year Anniversary - District 1  
Commissioner Delaney read aloud, and the Board adopted Resolution No. 25-067, recognizing  
Aging Matters of Brevard for 60 years of distinguished service to the citizens of Brevard  
County.  
Dr. John Potomski stated on behalf of the Brevard County Commission on Aging, he would like  
to extend their congratulations to the former Community Services Council and now Aging  
Matters in Brevard for 60 years of dedicated service to the seniors of Brevard County; not only  
congratulate them, but also thank them for all they do every single day for the seniors; with the  
Meals on Wheels Program, as mentioned, in addition to all the other things that they do, they  
are providing the basic nutrition and basic medicine for all these elders; and he will turn it over  
to Tom Kammerdener, President and CEO, to provide a little more information.  
Tom Kammerdener stated in his role he serves as a member of the Brevard Commission on  
Aging; on behalf of Aging Matters of Brevard, the Board of Directors, its professional staff,  
hundreds of volunteers, and the thousands of seniors that have been served since it first  
launched in 1965, they all express their appreciation to the Board for this proclamation, it  
means a great deal to them all; on July 1, they kicked off their new champions initiative; on  
October 30, at the Champions Breakfast launch event that initiative will take flight; as they  
prepare for launch, they are looking back to remember the champions who made all that has  
been done possible; among those champions are this Board and the Boards who preceded this  
one, who had the foresight to support the mission and keeping pace with Space Coast seniors,  
keeping them home, independent, safe, healthy, and with quality of life for as long as possible;  
and in this proclamation it was mentioned the Board’s desire to celebrate the enormous  
contributions of businesses that substantially contribute to the economic vitality of Brevard  
County, this is a business that is in the business of saving money. He continued by saying  
Donald, a 92-year old in critical need of Meals on Wheels, lives in Brevard County; Donald is  
homebound, has advanced dementia, and while his family can assist him, they have extremely  
limited resources; Donald was on the verge of moving into a nursing home, why, because  
Donald, along with 21 others in critical need, were on the Meals on Wheels wait list that has  
330 seniors on it, with 22 in most critical need; without champions like this Board, the Space  
Coast Meals on Wheels wait list will double by this time next year, why, because Federal, local,  
and State funding no longer keep up with the growing cost of food and transportation, and the  
silver tsunami that is flooding into Florida; it is time for new champions like Shari Tabat of  
Remax Space Coast, who heard they were starting their Adopt a Senior Program to drive down  
the Meals on Wheels wait list, starting with Donald and other seniors in critical need; and she  
donated $2,000, the cost to feed one senior for a full year, and now Donald can stay in his  
home. He went on to say consider this, if Donald instead went into a nursing home, it would  
cost $340 per day on average, so in less than one week, the cost could exceed the $2,000 it  
took to keep his family and Donald safe in his home, independently healthy, and safe in his  
home with a better quality of life; Commissioner Katie Delaney met them recently at the  
Titusville Chamber and in that setting, they were looking to set up a Meals on Wheels delivery  
drive along route; that is being worked on now because she is going to come and drive and see  
what they do; they would invite each of the Commissioners to do the same so they can meet  
some of the seniors that they champion; in closing, they invite the Board to share their vision of  
the future that Brevard County will be an example to the nation of how to treat citizens as they  
age and to do that they are going to need all of the Board to help continue to champion for the  
Space Coast seniors, to go well beyond the next 60 years; and he expressed his appreciation  
to the Board.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Thad Altman  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
F.1. Approval RE: Correctional Impact Fees Technical Advisory Committee for  
Brevard County Detention Center (District 1-5)  
The Board approved the disbursement of $3,458,670 in Correctional Impact Fees in  
accordance with the recommendations prepared by the Correctional Impact Fee Technical  
Advisory Committee; and authorized the County Manager to execute all necessary budget  
amendments.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.2. Approval, Re: Resolution Designating a Portion of County-Owned Parcel  
Identification Number 27-36-22-00-1 as Right-of-Way - District 5.  
The Board executed and adopted Resolution No. 25-068, designating a portion of the  
County-owned parcel to be designated as right-of-way pursuant to Section 336.08, Florida  
Statutes.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.3. Approval, Re: Resolution and Underground Easement (Business) from Brevard  
County to Florida Power and Light Company for the benefit of Lift Station V-15,  
as part of the Save Our Indian River Lagoon Zone M Milford Point Septic to Sewer  
Conversion Project - District 2.  
The Board executed and adopted Resolution No. 25-069, authorizing the conveyance of Real  
Property Interest by the County; and approved and executed the Underground Easement  
(Business) from Brevard County to FPL for the benefit of Lift Station V-15, as part of the SOIRL  
Zone M Milford Point Septic to Sewer Conversion Project.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.4. Approval, Re: Amended Purchase Agreements and Addendums to Purchase  
Agreements for a Portion of County Owned Parcels 110 and 112, and Amended  
County Deeds and Resolutions for Parcel 100, 101, and 109 all Related to the  
Florida Department of Transportation (FDOT) Facility Improvement Project  
4074023 State Road 528 East from East of State Road 524 (Industry) to East of  
State Road 3 - District 2.  
The Board approved and authorized the Chairman to initial page two of the attached Purchase  
Agreements; approved and executed the Addendums to the Purchase Agreements; adopted  
and re-executed Resolution Nos. 25-070 and 25-071 and County Deeds; approved and  
authorized the Interim County Manager, or County Manager, to execute all subsequent  
agreements, upon approval from the County Attorney’s Office and Risk Management; and  
approved all project-related documents to ensure timely delivery and responsiveness on  
FDOTs Facility Improvement Project for State Road 528 East of State Road 524 (Industry) to  
East of State Road 3.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.5. Consideration and Approval of Proposed Consent Order Issued by Florida  
Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) Regarding Certain Activities  
Conducted by the County to Improve Drainage within the Pelican Creek  
Outfall/Old Causeway Outfall (the Old Causeway Outfall ditch) (District 2)  
The Board considered and approved the proposed consent order issued by FDEP regarding  
certain activities conducted by the County to improve drainage within the Pelican Creek  
Outfall/Old Causeway Outfall (the Old Causeway Outfall Ditch); and authorized the Public  
Works Director to sign the consent order and any necessary amendments or related  
documents thereto, subject to review and approval by the County Attorney’s Office and Risk  
Management.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.6. Approval to Submit for Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP)  
Grants for South Beaches Wastewater Treatment Plant (WWTP) Projects (District  
3).  
The Board approved and authorized the Brevard County Utility Services Department to apply  
for FDEP grants and use matching funds for: South Beaches 2nd Deep Injection Well ($10  
million), and South Beaches 6 Millions of Gallons per Day (MGD) Advanced Wastewater  
Treatment (AWT) Conversion ($10 million).  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.7. Approval, Re: Resolution and Lease for the North Brevard Senior Center, Inc.  
located at 909 Lane Avenue in Titusville, Florida (District 1)  
The Board executed and adopted Resolution No. 25-072, allowing the non-competitive lease of  
County property located at 909 Lane Avenue in Titusville, Florida, which was developed to  
serve the recreational, social, and wellness needs of Brevard County’s senior population, to the  
North Brevard Senior Center, Inc.; executed and approved the Lease Contract for the North  
Brevard Senior Center, Inc., located at 909 Lane Avenue in Titusville, Florida; and authorized  
the Parks and Recreation Director to execute the agreement, renewals, modifications, and  
amendments upon approval of the County Attorney’s Office and Risk Management.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.8. Approval, Re: Resolution and Lease space for the Martin Andersen Senior  
Center, Inc. located at 1025 South Florida Avenue in Rockledge, Florida (District  
2)  
The Board executed and adopted Resolution No. 25-073, allowing the non-competitive lease of  
County property located at 1025 South Florida Avenue in Rockledge, Florida, which was  
developed to serve the recreational, social, and wellness needs of Brevard County’s senior  
population, to the Martin Anderson Senior Center, Inc.; executed and approved the Lease  
Contract for the Martin Anderson Senior Center, Inc., located at 1025 South Florida Avenue in  
Rockledge, Florida; and authorized the Parks and Recreation Director to execute the  
agreement, renewals, modifications, and amendments upon approval of the County Attorney’s  
Office and Risk Management.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.9. Approval, Re: Resolution and Lease to Wickham Park Senior Center, Inc. located  
at 2785 Leisure Way, located in Melbourne, Florida (District 4)  
The Board approved and adopted Resolution No. 25-074, allowing the non-competitive lease of  
County property located at 2785 Leisure Way, Melbourne, Florida, which was developed to  
serve the recreational, social, and wellness needs of Brevard County’s senior population, to the  
Wickham Park Senior Center, Inc.; and approved and authorized the Parks and Recreation  
Director to execute the agreement, renewals, modifications, and amendments, upon approval  
of the County Attorney’s Office and Risk Management.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.10. Approval, Re: East Coast Zoological Society Aquarium Groundbreaking Deadline  
Extension  
The Board approved an extension of the construction groundbreaking deadline of the East  
Coast Zoological Society Aquarium (aka The Bowen Aquarium) to April 30, 2026; further,  
based on the facts specified for each grant, by approval of this Agenda Item, the Board will  
make the legislative finding that Tourist Development tax funds are authorized for capital grants  
pursuant to Section 125.0104(5)(a)3, Florida Statutes, and Section 102-119(3)(a), (5)a, and  
(6)a of the Brevard County Code of Ordinances, as the tourist-oriented capital grant has as one  
of its main purposes the attraction of tourists, and the entity and the Space Coast Office of  
Tourism both intend to ensure marketing and promotion of this facility to tourists; approved  
authority for the Tourism Development Office Director to negotiate and sign all necessary  
agreements, addendums, and related documents upon County Attorney’s Office, Risk  
Management, and Central Services approval; and authorized the County Manager to execute  
necessary Budget Change Requests.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.11. Approval, Re: Advance the purchase one (1) Sutphen SPH 100’ Aerial Platform  
Ladder Truck.  
The Board approved the advanced purchase of one (1) Sutphen 100-foot Aerial Platform  
Ladder Truck; and authorized the County Manager to approve Budget Change Requests  
(BCRs) and other administrative actions required to complete the purchase as necessary.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.12. Resolution approving the issuance by Brevard County Housing Finance Authority  
of Multi-Family Housing Revenue Bonds (Cocoa West Apartments Project), in an  
amount not to exceed $80,000,000  
The Board approved and adopted Resolution No. 25-075, allowing the Brevard County Housing  
Finance Authority to issue multi-family housing revenue bonds to finance the acquisition,  
construction, equipping, and development of the Cocoa West Apartments Project.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.13. Memorandum of Agreement with DR Horton, Inc. re: The Pines  
The Board approved and authorized the Chairman to execute Memorandum of Agreement  
(MOA) with DR Horton, Inc. regarding The Pines development in the City of Melbourne.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.14. Appointment(s) / Reappointment(s)  
The Board appointed/reappointed Neal Johnson to the Planning and Zoning Board, with said  
term to expire December 31, 2026; Brooke Bothun and Maggie Lewis to the South Brevard  
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, with said terms to expire on August 11, 2027; and Brian  
Germain, Kelly Kervin, and Denise Rich to the South/Central Brevard Public Library Advisory  
Board, with said terms to expire on August 11, 2027.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.15. Bill Folder  
The Board acknowledged receipt of the Bill Folder.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
F.16. Request of $725,000 for the General Special Election that will be reimbursed by  
the Department of State  
The Board approved request for funds in the amount of $725,000 to cover the expenses to hold  
the June 2025 General Special Election, which funds will be reimbursed by the Department of  
State once all documentation submitted is reviewed.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
G.  
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Individuals may not speak under both the first and second  
public comment sections.)  
Reverend Johnnie B. Dennis stated he is the President of the National Action Network in  
Cocoa, Florida; he is also a Navy combat veteran, retired; he is here today to speak on the lies  
and racism of a County government; he has been at this podium for the last 15 years; when the  
Board sees him, then there is a serious issue going on in West Cocoa; it is a 99 percent black  
community and they pay the same amount of money that everybody else does, but they receive  
no service for their money; he was in the County Manager’s Office seven months ago about the  
Grade haul because the last storm they had, because no one was cleaning those ditches out,  
he had water in his livingroom, and ruined his carpet; to prevent that he had to bring the news  
in on it; but they started bringing in the Grade haul out once per year to dredge those ditches,  
so when they get excessive rain they do not get any flooding; and he was at the County  
Manager’s Office seven months ago and he had to call in four other times before he got a  
response. He commented the response he got was from the streets and highway supervisor,  
which told a lie about the Grade haul was going to be in another neighborhood for about two  
months; that was seven months ago; he called Ms. Delaney’s Office one time and was asked if  
he wanted to make an appointment; he said no, just let her know that the West Cocoa needs  
that Grade haul out there to dredge these ditches; once she gets a chance he would like for her  
to call him so they can do a ride around in West Cocoa; he reiterated it has been seven months  
and the Grade haul has not shown up yet; he has seen it in Levitt Park, he saw it on Eyster, he  
saw it on Pluckebaum cleaning out the fish ponds; the last time they had the storms out there  
and the water came into his livingroom and ruined his carpet, he calls that a loss because the  
carpet was old, but if it happens again, he is going to have to take some kind of action; and  
what he is saying is this community pays the same amount of taxes as everybody else does  
and they are not receiving the services. He noted it has been seven months and the Grade haul  
has not showed up yet; he sees it everywhere; he sees it in ditches that do not even need  
cleaning out today; he knows Commissioner Delaney is new, but he asked her to give him a  
call the first chance she gets and they can do a ride around.  
Commissioner Delaney advised she would be happy to.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if Eyster and Levitt Park would be in Rockledge.  
Tad Calkins, Assistant County Manager, responded affirmatively.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if that would be a Rockledge Grade haul or a County Grade  
haul.  
Mr. Calkins advised he believes that would be a Rockledge Grade haul maintaining…  
Commissioner Goodson asked how many Grad hauls the County has.  
Reverend Dennis interjected by saying one.  
Mr. Calkins advised he would have to ask Marc Bernath, Public Works Director.  
Reverend Dennis commented to go ahead and ask him.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if there are three; and how many miles of ditches the County  
has to clean with three Grade hauls and the walking excavator.  
Mr. Bernath advised there is approximately 1,000 miles of ditches and swales combined.  
Commissioner Goodson stated in reference to Reverend Dennis, Pluckebaum, Burnett Road,  
and inquired if that is in his neighborhood.  
Reverend Dennis replied yes, they were out there with the Grade haul cleaning the fish pond  
out; the fish pond does not flood, but the ditches behind Catalina, there are three ditches over  
there that are a problem; he lives on Catalina, but the houses behind it, if they are dredged out  
at least once per year, when they receive two or three weeks of rain, like that storm, the water  
comes out of the ditches and it is four-feet deep in the streets; ones car will float down the  
road; and they do not want that to happen again.  
Commissioner Goodson stated he understands.  
Reverend Dennis noted he would like the County to come out once per year and do it because  
they pay the same amount of money that everybody else does.  
Commissioner Goodson reiterated that he understands. He asked how the County rotates, for  
example Mr. Dennis’ neighborhood, would it be once or twice per year.  
Mr. Bernath stated it depends on the number of ditches within each District, how much  
equipment, how many resources he has, and then they try to prioritize based on whether or not  
they are similar to roads, collector ditches, or just local ditches; historically, there are ditches  
within the County that do not get maintained or had not been maintained for 10, 20, or 30  
years; staff is doing much better, where on average it is one to three years; and he would have  
to look into this specific issue to be able to answer for this particular ditch.  
Commissioner Goodson stated he knows maybe two or three years ago the County did a lot of  
work at Stratford and Range Road, then did work down Clearlake, the ditch crosses back over  
I-95 and goes out to the river; and he asked if that is correct.  
Mr. Bernath agreed.  
Commissioner Goodson continued by saying with this particular situation, can Mr. Bernath do  
some research and get back to the Board to his problem.  
Mr. Bernath replied absolutely.  
Commissioner Goodson asked what fish pond Mr. Dennis was referring to.  
Reverend Dennis advised it is the one on Pluckebaum in the new $300,000 homes; where he  
lives at there are $200,000 homes; they are cleaning the fish pond out; the fish pond does not  
overflow; and he has been living out there for 16 years.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if that would be a Rockledge pond.  
Reverend Dennis noted it is.  
Commissioner Goodson pointed out that is not the County, it would be Rockledge.  
Reverend Dennis noted that is right; when he called the County, streets and bridges, they say  
they only have one Grade haul; and they have got to be kidding.  
Commissioner Goodson commented that has been resolved, there are three and there is a  
walking mucker, or whatever it is called.  
Mr. Bernath noted there are several Kaisers, but they are assigned to different Districts.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if Mr. Bernath is going to get back to the Board on Reverend  
Dennis’ problem and let it know when it is scheduled or something like that, or when it was  
done last.  
Mr. Bernath replied he just received a text and he apologizes, there are 12 Grade hauls and  
five Kaisers; on average outfalls are cleaned once to twice a year; collectors are three to five  
years; but he will look into this specific issue.  
Commissioner Goodson stated he would also like Mr. Bernath to tell the Board how many miles  
per day they get when cleaning a ditch; he does not know if it is two or 10; but he would like to  
know that.  
Mr. Bernath replied, okay.  
Reverend Dennis stated he has one more thing, when the Grade haul comes out to clean those  
three problem ditches out in his community in West Cocoa, it takes about four days.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if they do a good job.  
Reverend Dennis replied in the affirmative; and he stated if they clean it once a year, there is  
no flooding.  
Commissioner Goodson asked again, if they do a good job.  
Reverend Dennis noted yes they do when they show up.  
Jesse Wright stated he is the developer and sponsor for the Titusville Resort and Destination at  
3550 South Washington Avenue; he wants to thank the Board for the grant that it approved for  
$2.4 million; he thinks they are going to go for the first trench of $800,000 so they can move on  
to getting the infrastructure done; what the Board is looking at is a packet that he has created;  
he has gone to the City of Titusville as far as getting to the environmental commission there  
that unanimously agreed and approved that the City of Titusville should be involved in the leak  
that has been coming from Cumberland Farms since 1983; and he has not been able to get  
anyone to listen to the issue that he has that is the contamination that is existing in the portion  
of the property nearly about almost half of it, almost five acres. He explained as the Board can  
see on the second page, the groundwater tab is around 3.5; this means that the contamination  
has been moving towards the Lagoon; Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP)  
of course is the responsible party and one can see the communication between himself and  
them, which is not really that nice or polite; that is the only way he can get their attention;  
nevertheless, he is pleading to this Board to see if the County can be involved; this  
contamination right now is hurting the businesses there as well; they still have about 23 tenants  
in the existing mall that is about 112,000 square feet; there are kids that go to Jazz and Ballet,  
and that business has been there for about 20 years; some of the Board may know the mall,  
prior to him demolishing about 168,000 square feet of it; and this has been a battle between  
him and FDEP for a very long time. He went on to say he had purchased the property in  
February 2018, and all he has done so far is just keep giving them access for monitoring; this  
has been nothing but just watching the paint dry; this is the second phase fortunately, but  
nevertheless, they are still going to be developing this property, 22 acres, and 10 acres of it is  
not usable; he has tenants there and they have not done any sort of Organic Vapor Analyzers  
(OVA) of the gas coming out of the ground; they have not done anything about the residents  
possible contamination; when the residents do not see what is going on below the ground,  
obviously they are not being notified; and that is the reason he is there tonight.  
Commissioner Goodson inquired if Mr. Wright has contact FDEP about the gas leaks.  
Mr. Wright replied he has, and they have been nonresponsive.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if he has contacted the local State Representative for help.  
Mr. Wright answered yes, the Commissioner can see the emails going back and forth between  
everyone.  
Commissioner Goodson asked what the State Representative did for Mr. Wright.  
Mr. Wright informed him the State Representative did nothing; the copy of his email, basically  
he has looked at this and it still needs monitoring; and they have been the worst referee that he  
has ever seen.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if Titusville has helped.  
Mr. Wright advised he just spoke with the Mayor and as one can see, he was going to go to the  
City of Titusville council meeting and was told not to come there just come to this Board.  
Commissioner Goodson asked if that is in the Board’s jurisdiction.  
Jim Liesenfelt, Interim County Manager, stated this is the fuel tank monitoring program and the  
County handles that for the City of Titusville; and Amanda Elmore, Natural Resources  
Management Deputy Director is there and Tad Calkins, Assistant County Manager, knows a  
little bit as well.  
Commissioner Goodson commented then the County is aware of this.  
Mr. Liesenfelt responded in the affirmative, and stated one can see part of his edited email in  
the response.  
Mr. Wright asked the Board to please look at the last two or three pages, he has highlighted the  
areas that this has been approved unanimously by the Titusville Environmental Commission  
(TEC); he understands the City is not going to be respecting their unanimous approval; and he  
is literally begging that the County be involved.  
Commissioner Delaney stated she has a question for staff; and she asked what exactly is the  
Board’s Power and responsibility in this situation.  
Amanda Elmore, Natural Resources Management Deputy Director, stated this is part of the  
County’s delegated program from the State; local program manager, Tina Swanson, has been  
working on this site for years; there have been many meetings between DEP, Mr. Wright,  
Cumberland Farms, and all of the attorney’s involved; the path that was chosen years ago is  
natural attenuation and watching to see when those remediation levels are achieved; the  
County waits for the data to come in from the Cumberland Farms consultant, review it, which  
they just received another quarterly monitoring data, and Ms. Swanson coordinates with DEP  
on whether or not that meets those target levels and whether or not the County can release the  
site with a “no further action”; to date they have not been able to do that, but she was having  
conversations as recently as today, with DEP to see whether or not this site reaches those  
levels; but that is the County’s role, the go-between with DEP.  
Mr. Wright stated with all due respect, they keep coming closer and closer to the phase one,  
closer to the tenants that he has there, and this is the issue, it has been going on seven years;  
this leak is coming in from 1983 and the fact is if FDEP says that it is since 2004, that is not  
true, it is a total lie; he has asked for documentations that Cumberland Farms should have  
been given to them, and they lost the records, they do not have any of the records except for  
maybe two or three pages; and that is in 2010.  
Mr. Liesenfelt advised Mr. Wright sent him an email last month; he sat down with Ms. Swanson,  
Ms. Elmore, and Mr. Calkins; part of the attachment that Mr. Wright sent him was he went to  
Representative Mike Haridopolos’ office and the letter he actually attached to it was sent on to  
the Federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the EPA agreed with what DEP and  
the process the County is following right now; and that is not in the attachment that was  
provided by Mr. Wright. He noted therefore, other outside people have looked at what the  
County is doing and agree with the monitoring and providing what is in the reports is  
appropriate and proper.  
Mr. Wright commented monitoring since 1983.  
Commissioner Delaney asked if this monitoring is prohibiting further development of this site.  
Ms. Elmore replied no; and she explained from what she understands, he can proceed with  
phase development right now.  
Commissioner Delaney commented she would guess the City of Titusville would be permitting  
this; and she asked if they were to permit for phase two that there would be nothing holding this  
project back.  
Ms. Elmore reiterated it is her understanding that there is not.  
Mr. Wright interjected by saying that is not quite true because he had to go around the  
contaminated area and actually put water lines all around it; and that went against the site plan  
they had approved.  
Mr. Calkins advised the Board there are two options that Mr. Wright has, or Cumberland  
Farms, that could be involved in this; one of them is the monitoring aspect that they have been  
following; the other is they could actively mitigate the plume, remove it, and fill it in, and that  
has not happened; and he just wants the Board to understand that there are two different  
resolutions.  
Chairman Feltner stated just for his own clarification, an old gas tank that can be filled in with  
sand.  
Morris Richardson, County Attorney, commented plume from an old tank.  
Mr. Wright stated if this was in California it would have been taken out within days.  
Commissioner Delaney asked who would be responsible for taking out and filling in this land.  
Ms. Elmore stated on Mr. Wright’s side it would be Mr. Wright and Cumberland Farms, if  
Cumberland Farms was doing something additional, it would be Cumberland Farms; those  
mitigation options were discussed years ago and she believes with Mr. Wright, even before the  
purchase of the property; she was not involved in those conversations, but he is right, there has  
been quite an extensive history on this site; the Agreement, she believes with Mr. Wright’s  
attorneys and with Cumberland Farms was this monitoring path; it is a longer path than actively  
mitigating the plume; but that was the path that was chosen. She noted that does not mean  
they cannot choose a different path now or at any point from when those discussions  
commenced prior to the purchase of the property.  
Commissioner Delaney asked if the polluters are not liable for the damages to Mr. Wright’s  
property.  
Ms. Elmore stated she cannot speak to who has liability and those civil matters, she can only  
speak to how it can be cleaned up or monitored, the different paths that can be taken as the  
delegated programmer or the local program.  
Mr. Wright stated this is not just about his site, there are people who live around the property  
and they have rights as well; he is not asking the Board to just help him, but to certainly bring  
this to their attention; and the next thing he will do is a petition of all the neighbors because he  
does not think they know what is going on.  
Commissioner Delaney inquired, with the County being in charge of the monitors, does it have  
any responsibility to alert the neighbors.  
Ms. Elmore advised it is a known contaminated site…  
Mr. Wright interjected by saying not for the neighbors.  
Ms. Elmore continued by saying the County’s responsibility is to review the data and issue a  
“no further action” if it can; so far they do not have the data to do that; there is no data support  
to issue that letter; and she knows that is what Mr. Wright would like.  
Chairman Feltner stated he sees a meeting in Mr. Wright’s future with Commissioner Delaney.  
Gerhard Claasser stated this morning he received a letter from the County saying, “Dear  
business owner, Brevard County is in the process of developing an industrial pre-treatment  
program in accordance with Rule 62-65-500 Florida Administrative Code. The goal of this  
program is to help protect the environment, public safety, and the safety of our wastewater  
treatment employees by identifying and working with non-residential users to that discharge to  
the Brevard County Utility Service System.”; and he asked why the County sent him this letter,  
now. He continued by saying he understands it says this is for public safety, environmental  
help, but that is a very broad group; and he asked what prompted the County to send him this  
letter.  
Eddie Fontanin, Utility Services Director, explained going through an industrial pretreatment  
program to establish one, they go through an analysis of commercial industrial sites; and if his  
site was one of them, it is just a protocol, nothing more.  
Mr. Claasser stated maybe he is not making himself clear; he is trying to understand why did  
this happen now; and he asked if there was something that prompted the County to this.  
Mr. Fontanin advised there was one sent out for South Central and one for Sykes Creek; they  
do not currently have an industrial pretreatment program; for staff to go through and establish  
one, which is a State requirement in order for them to do so now, they have to go through the  
steps in order to establish it; and Mr. Claasser receiving that survey is one of probably 300 that  
were sent out per the service area that meets the criteria of warranting them to receive one.  
Mr. Claasser stated he understands he is not the only person; and what he is trying to  
understand is this the first step in this process.  
Mr. Fontanin advised it is one of the first steps.  
Mr. Claasser commented if the County is going to look for contaminants in the wastewater  
would it not be a better idea to start at the wastewater plant and see what is in the water and  
work back from there, instead of burdening him with an 18 page…he makes tea and puts water  
down the drain; he has to spend a whole day to do this; and he is not done yet.  
Mr. Fontanin explained staff goes through, there are five steps currently underway in  
establishing an industrial pre-treatment and looking at the threshold of the treatment plan is  
currently one of them.  
Mr. Claassen commented he understands the County is looking at what is actually in the  
pre-treatment plant; and he asked if that is correct. He went on to inquire if it would be logical to  
start at the end to see what stuff is in the water that they do not want there, and see who could  
possibly provide that; he reiterated he makes tea; he does not place anything solid down the  
drain; and everything that goes down his drain is smaller than one micron.  
Chairman Feltner asked if this is a survey.  
Mr. Fontanin noted it is a survey; the process to go through industrial pretreatment is dictated  
by Florida Statute; it is very specific on what steps have to be taken and what time frame; staff  
is following it and coordinating with Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP)  
throughout; and this is not a process where staff is just creating its own process in establishing  
this.  
Chairman Feltner noted staff is following State statute today; he understands from staff that it is  
just a survey at this point; and they are just collecting data.  
Mr. Claassen stated he understands; but it is an 18-page survey which includes him testing his  
effluent.  
Chairman Feltner asked Mr. Claassen to leave his information and the Board will find out if  
there is less or more that he needs to do.  
Mr. Claassen commented he is not done; to test his effluent he needs to find a lab that can do  
it; then find a way to get into his wastewater; he is just one single unit in a big building; then he  
must find a way to get into the wastewater and then get somebody to come and do that testing;  
then he has to wait for the results; and the County wants this back on September 10, 28 days  
from now.  
Commissioner Delaney asked if this is required for the business owners, and is this businesses  
being asked.  
Mr. Fontanin responded affirmatively.  
Commissioner Delaney inquired if it is required for them to do this survey.  
Mr. Fontanin advised it is part of the data collection; staff sends it out; it demonstrates to the  
State that they are doing this; in addition, there was a cover letter that came with it; they have  
been receiving a lot of good questions where they have staff walking people through it; staff  
tries to help them through with regards to survey because it has to be approved by FDEP  
before it gets released; and whatever the number of pages are is what FDEP is saying is  
necessary.  
Mr. Liesenfelt advised he has Mr. Claassen’s contact information so he will get somebody to  
help him work through this survey and whether or not he needs to fill out the whole amount.  
Chairman Feltner noted that is the best the Board is able to do tonight.  
Mr. Claassen commented not only did he waste his whole day, he is going to have more time  
wasted by talking to somebody with the County on top of that; he says wasted in the sense that  
he is a small business and he literally does everything; and if he does this, he cannot do his  
work.  
Chairman Feltner explained staff is going to do their very best to help him with that; but it  
sounds like he needs to do this survey.  
Mr. Claassen asked if the survey went out to every business in Brevard County, or did staff  
decide some businesses and some not.  
Mr. Fontanin stated staff went through and looked at business tax receipts in order to establish  
which businesses would meet that criteria; they share this information with FDEP; they go  
through their analysis; and then FDEP approves the County on the list that is sent out.  
Mr. Claassen commented he is assuming the more extensive the list, the less likely they will  
miss somebody.  
He mentioned he makes tea, nothing else.  
Chairman Feltner noted to make sure staff has his contact information.  
H.1. Petition to Vacate, Re: A portion of a public utility and drainage easement - Plat of  
“Shady Villas Unit No. 2”, Plat Book 21, Page 85 - Mims - Timothy and Christine  
Meister - District 1  
Chairman Feltner called for a public hearing on request by Timothy and Christine Meister for a  
petition to vacate a portion of a public utility and drainage easement, plat of “Shady Villas Unit  
No. 2”, plat book 21, page 85, located in Mims, Florida.  
Marc Bernath, Public Works Director, stated this Item is a petition to vacate a portion of a  
public utility and drainage easement in Shady Villas; it is located in District 1; the petitioner is  
requesting the vacating of a portion of a public utility and drainage easement to allow an  
existing garage to remain; and he has received no objections.  
There being no comments or objections, the Board adopted Resolution No. 25-076, vacating a  
portion of a public utility and drainage easement in Shady Villas, located in district 1, as  
petitioned by Timothy and Christine Meister.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Kim Adkinson  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
H.2. Petition to Vacate, Re: A portion of a public utility and drainage easement - Plat of  
“Brandywine North”, Plat Book 37, Page 65 - Titusville - Wayne Herring Family  
Trust - District 1  
Chairman Feltner called for a public hearing on request by Wayne Herring Family Trust for a  
petition to vacate a portion of a public utility and drainage easement, plat of “Brandywine  
North”, plat book 37, page 65, located in Titusville, Florida.  
Marc Bernath, Public Works Director, stated this is a petition to vacate a portion of a public  
utility and drainage easement; it is located in Brandywine North; it is located in District 1; the  
petitioner is requesting to vacate a portion of the public utility and drainage easement to allow  
for the screened pool to remain; and there are no issues and no objections.  
There being no comments or objections, the Board adopted Resolution No. 25-077, vacating a  
portion of a public utility and drainage easement, in Brandywine North, located in District 1, as  
petitioned by the Wayne Herring Family Trust.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Thad Altman  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
H.3. Brevard County Code of Ordinances Chapter 94 - Solid Waste  
Chairman Feltner called for a public hearing to consider adopting the amendments to Brevard  
County Code of Ordinances, Chapter 94, Solid Waste.  
Tom Mulligan, Solid Waste Mnanagement Director, stated staff is requesting the Board adopt  
amendments to the Brevard County Code of Ordinances, Chapter 94, Solid Waste; in July  
2024, the Board adopted some amendments to the ordinance and in doing so, inadvertently  
had omitted certain portions of certain Sections; and tonight’s proposed amendments are to  
replace those omitted portions.  
Rick Heffelfinger stated he is probably a little late for this but he just recently had conversations  
with Waste Management; garbage is kind of his thing; his cans that he uses for yard debris are  
garbage cans and they are pretty beat up; he just learned that the Waste Management can  
pick those up with a machine if it is one of those bar type carts; the problem is the carts that  
they say they will approve is only 40 gallons; he had some conversations about if he could get  
the bigger one and it was like, well Waste Management says 40; and he would like to see that  
increased in size because 40-gallon, he is not going to buy three of them, and the economy of  
scale when buying a bigger one. He noted it is leaves and branches, not heavy stuff; he talked  
to the garbage guys and said he had no idea they had a hook on the back and could pick that  
up, because he has to replace these because the bottoms are falling out; he does not know if it  
is too late for a revision, they would probably have to talk to Waste Management to negotiate  
that into the Contract; but he does not think anybody sees a problem but he is not going to buy  
big cans and have somebody tell him they are too big for the contract, because that is what  
people do. He reiterated he would like to see that increased in size at least to the size of cans  
that are used for the garbage and recyclables. He added for $100 one can get a good size one  
and for $90 one could get the 40-gallon, so double the size for pennies on the dollar.  
Chairman Feltner asked if there has been any talk of containerizing yard waste any time soon.  
Mr. Mulligan advised he has a meeting with Waste Management on Monday and he can bring  
that into the discussion.  
Chairman Feltner noted he knows that is something they would like to do.  
Mr. Mulligan stated in terms of Mr. Heffelfinger and his 40 gallons, that is also part of the  
Ordinance and could not be changed in a quick amendment this evening, but he can look into  
making that happen.  
Commissioner Delaney stated for the future she would be interested in that coming back to the  
Board.  
There being no further comments or objections, the Board held a public hearing and adopted  
Ordinance No.  
25 14, amending Chapter 94 of the Code of Ordinances of Brevard County, Florida, specifically  
amending Chapter 94, Section 94-1, Definitions, to replace omitted definitions; amending  
Section 94-4, Enforcement, Penalties, to replace omitted paragraphs 3, 4, and 5; amending  
Section 94-47, Residential Solid Waste Receptacles, Improper Receptacles, Collection Point to  
replace omitted paragraph (C); amending Section 94-76, Construction, Demolition,  
Landclearing Debris to replace omitted paragraphs (C) and (D); providing for  
conflicts; providing for severability; providing for inclusion into the Code of Ordinances; and  
providing for an effective date.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Kim Adkinson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
H.4. Adoption, Re: Solid Waste Special Assessments, Fees and Charges and  
Ratification, Confirmation and Certification of the Solid Waste Special  
Assessment Rolls.  
Chairman Feltner called for a public hearing to adopt Solid Waste special assessments, fees  
and charges, and ratification, confirmation, and certification of the Solid Waste Special  
Assessment Rolls.  
Tom Mulligan, Solid Waste Management Director, stated staff is requesting the Board adopt  
three rate resolutions; the first is the annual Solid Waste Disposal Special Assessment Rate  
Resolution that reflects a 4.16 percent increase according to the Consumer Price Index (CPI)  
for garbage and trash; adopting the Solid Waste collection recycling special assessment Rate  
Resolution that reflects a three percent increase which is both, according to the Contract and  
Board approved; and the special rates and gate charges resolution that is being modified to  
reflect the definitions to match Ordinance 94 and it also has a 4.16 percent increase according  
to the CPI for garbage and trash; and staff is also requesting the Board ratify, confirm, and  
certify the annual disposal collection and recycling special assessment rolls to the Brevard  
County Tax Collector.  
Chairman Feltner advised he needs four motions.  
Mr. Mulligan explained it can actually be done in one motion.  
There being no further comments or objections, the Board adopted Resolution No. 25-078, the  
Annual Solid Waste Disposal Special Assessment Rate, reflecting an incremental increase to  
the annual billing unit for residential properties of $2.90 and for commercial properties of $8.38  
for FY 2025-2026; adopted Resolution No. 25-079, the Solid Waste Collection and Recycling  
Special Assessment Rate and Special Rates and Charges for Improved Non-Residential  
Property and Compensation Rates which reflect a three percent increase; adopted Resolution  
No. 25-080, the Schedule of Special Rates and Gate Charges modified to reflect updates to the  
definitions; and adopted Resolution No. 25-081, ratifying, confirming, and certifying the Annual  
Disposal, Collection, and Recycling Special Assessment Rolls to the Brevard County Tax  
Collector.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Kim Adkinson  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
H.5. Approval, Re: An Ordinance of the Board of County Commissioners of Brevard  
County, Florida; amending Chapter 62, Article VII, Division 2, Section 62-2844,  
entitled “Performance Security”.  
Chairman Feltner called for public hearing to adopt an ordinance amending Chapter 62, Article  
VII, Division 2, Section 62-2844, entitled “Performance Security.”  
Marc Bernath, Public Works Director, stated staff is seeking approval for an ordinance for the  
Board to amend Chapter 62, Article VII, Division 2, Section 62-2844, entitled “Performance  
Security”; this was brought to the Board for legislative intent back in April; it went to the Building  
and Construction Advisory Committee (BCAC) where it received unanimous approval, then the  
Local Planning Agency (LPA) where it received an 11:1 vote; this is to allow the County  
Manager, or his designee, to release performance bonds; County staff already accepts the  
work; and this is seen as an improvement or an efficiency measure.  
There being no comments or objections, the Board adopted Ordinance No. 25 15, amending  
Chapter 62, Article VII, Division 2, Section 62 2844, entitled Performance Security; specifically  
amending the process for the release or reduction of performance security of improvements  
already accepted by public works staff to delegate certain authority to the County Manager, or  
designee; providing for conflicting provisions; providing for severability; providing for an  
area encompassed; providing for an effective date; and providing for inclusion in the Brevard  
County Code of Ordinances.  
Result: ADOPTED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Kim Adkinson  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
J.1. Approval, Re: Tourist Development Council (TDC) FY 2025-2026 Marketing  
Support Program recommendations  
Peter Cranis, Tourism Development Office Director, stated this is the Tourist Development  
Council (TDC) recommendations for the marketing support program; there are 18 cultural and  
24 sports grants for a total amount of $572,665; and he is happy to answer any questions.  
Commissioner Adkinson stated her issue with this one is it reads each district office must grant  
up to two organizations; she still does not like this; she thinks there is a group of people whose  
job is to make the decision where this money goes; as she did last time, she would like the  
opportunity to give it back to them to let them do what they need to do with it; she does not like  
the idea of giving money to organizations that did not meet the criteria; therefore, the word  
‘must’ for her, if it could be changed to ‘may’ it would not obligate her to dole that money out.  
Chairman Feltner advised his amenable to that; he will accept that as a friendly amendment;  
and he asked if the rest of the Board is amenable to that.  
The Board approved the TDC recommendations for FY 2025-2026 Marketing Support  
Program, Attachment A; further, based on the facts specified by approving this Agenda Item,  
the Board makes legislative finding that Tourist Development Tax (TDT) funds are authorized  
for sporting grants pursuant to Section 125.0104(5)(a)3, Florida Statutes, and Section  
102-119(3)a, (5)a, and (6)a of the Brevard County Code of Ordinances, each of the  
tourist-oriented sporting and special events has as one of its main purposes the attraction of  
tourists, and the entity and Space Coast Office of Tourism both intend to ensure marketing and  
promotion of these events to tourists; authorized the Tourism Development Office Director to  
negotiate and sign all necessary agreements and related documents upon County Attorney’s  
Office, Risk Management, and Central Services approval; authorized the County Manager to  
execute necessary Budget Change Requests; and authorized each Commission District office  
to receive $20,000 in funds to allocate as they choose, to organizations that applied to the  
program, but did not meet the minimum attendance, with awards not to exceed the minimum  
award amounts in Section 6.0 and each District office ‘may’ grant up to two organizations to be  
approved by the Board at the October 14, 2025, Board of County Commissioners meeting.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Kim Adkinson  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
J.2. Election of Value Adjustment Board Chairperson  
Morris Richardson, County Attorney, stated the Value Adjustment Board (VAB) is kicking off its  
annual cycle of meetings with an Organizational Meeting on Friday, August 15, 2025; they have  
asked that this Board elect two members of the Board to the Value Adjustment Board and elect  
one of those members to serve as the Chairperson; and currently, Commissioners Adkinson  
and Altman serve on the Value Adjustment Board, with Commissioner Altman serving as the  
Chair.  
Chairman Feltner asked if the Organizational meeting is on Friday.  
Nicole Summers, Clerk to the Value Adjustment Board, responded in the affirmative.  
Chairman Feltner advised he is taking this up now to get the calendar on sync with the VAB  
versus the change in the Board, et cetera.  
Commissioner Altman advised he is willing to serve again in the same capacity.  
Chairman Feltner commented that would probably be easy for the VAB.  
Commissioner Adkinson stated she is also willing to serve; and she will make a motion that  
Commissioner Altman take the Chairperson seat.  
Chairman Feltner advised he thinks Commissioner Altman stated he is willing to serve in the  
same capacity; Commissioner Altman for the Chair of the VAB; and he asked if there is a  
motion.  
The Board appointed Commissioner Altman to the VAB as the Chairperson.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Kim Adkinson  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
Chairman Feltner asked if there is a motion to appoint Commissioner Adkinson to the Value  
Adjustment Board.  
The Board appointed Commissioner Adkinson to the VAB.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Katie Delaney  
Seconder: Rob Feltner  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
J.3. Legislative intent and permission to advertise an ordinance amending Chapter 58  
- Historical Preservation, Article II. - Historical Commission, Section 58-37 of the  
Brevard County Code relating to the membership requirements for the Historical  
Commission  
Meeting went into Recess  
Meeting Reconvened  
Commissioner Adkinson explained the Historical Commission is a commission that is  
Countywide; currently, each Board member can appoint three people from his or her District,  
which is important to her to do; she has advertised on the County Facebook, press releases,  
newsletters, and websites, but she is not getting anybody; she did have a gentleman come to  
her who was is a published author; his name is Dan Ryder and he has an expertise in surf  
history; she had her staff looking, and they had found that previously in 1996, the Board  
actually approved the change so that Commissioners could appoint outside of his or her  
District, but it never got signed by the Chairman; and she wanted to bring it back so each  
Commissioner can appoint from anywhere within Brevard County.  
Morris Richardson, County Attorney, advised all of that is exactly correct, he was being asked  
who the Chair was at that time but he does not recall.  
Chairman Feltner commented he was trying to remember but does not recall either, but he is  
sure it is on the wall; he noted he thinks this makes sense; it is certainly a lot easier when one  
has at large versus in the district; and he asked for a motion.  
Commissioner Adkinson asked the County Attorney to state the motion.  
Attorney Richardson stated the motion would be that the Board of County Commissioners  
approve legislative intent and direct he staff to prepare an ordinance implementing that intent;  
and to grant permission to advertise the ordinance for public hearing with the proposed  
ordinance amending the Historical Commission’s membership requirements to provide for  
appointment of members at large rather than by District residency.  
The Board approved legislative intent and permission to advertise an ordinance to be prepared  
by staff, amending the Historical Commission’s membership requirements found in Section  
58-37(a) to provide for appointment of members at-large, rather than by district residency, as  
the amendment will allow a Commissioner to appoint a resident who is knowledgeable in  
history, cultural lore, and development of Brevard County, regardless of the Commission  
District in which they reside.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Kim Adkinson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
The Board recessed at 6:00 p.m. and reconvened at 6:05 p.m.  
I.1.  
Appointment of County Manager Position  
Commissioner Goodson stated he is not a fall guy, he saw that today; to the gentleman that did  
the podcast, next time please refer to the eight years that he spent at Port Canaveral that he  
must have missed with his investigation; he would like to stick with a leader that is known  
instead of taking chances with someone else; the Department heads are supporting Jim  
Liesenfelt, the County Attorney, and other elected officials; he believes the Board as well will  
support him; and he would like to make a motion to appoint Jim Liesenfelt to be the County  
Manager and include in the motion that the Board appoint Chairman Feltner and the County  
Attorney to work out the details and bring it back to the Board.  
Commissioner Delaney called for point of order.  
Chairman Feltner asked for questions and announced that there are cards.  
Commissioner Altman pointed out that Commissioner Delaney called for point of order; and he  
asked if that should receive precedent.  
Chairman Feltner advised he was going to go through the normal process; and he inquired if  
that was what Commissioner Delaney’s point of order was about.  
Commissioner Delaney responded in the affirmative.  
Chairman Feltner advised he is going to go through the normal process like he always does, he  
was not ignoring her.  
Commissioner Delaney expressed her appreciation.  
Wendy Ellis stated she had the opportunity to work professionally with Jim Liesenfelt for over  
two decades, when he was a Director of Space Coast Area Transit and her firm provided  
marketing support services; she was excited to read about a motion Commissioner Goodson  
was making tonight, and wanted to share her support for removing the word acting from Mr.  
Liesenfelt’s title; there are many observations that she could share from the 20-plus years that  
she worked with Mr. Liesenfelt; but at the heart of it all, is his honesty. She continued by saying  
through his honesty he builds trust; she watched as Mr. Liesenfelt earned the trust of his team,  
his peers, and his superiors; trust is a foundation of strong working relationships and effective  
team work; without it collaboration breaks down and moral suffers; he encourages open  
communication; when managers are honest it sets a tone for transparency; and everyone feels  
safer sharing ideas, giving feedback, and reporting issues leading to better problem solving and  
innovation. She commented Mr. Liesenfelt promotes accountability; honesty holds  
stakeholders, managers, and employees accountable; when leaders give clear feedback, it  
creates a culture where taking responsibility is the norm and not the exception; he supports  
ethical decision making; honest managers make ethical choices and avoid deceitful practices  
that could damage an organization’s reputation; he improves morale and engagement;  
employees and community members become more engaged and motivated when they know  
their leaders are honest, straightforward, and fair; it builds confidence in leadership and  
reduces cynicism; his management style led to better decision making; with honesty,  
information flows more freely; management and elected officials can make better decisions  
when they have accurate, unfiltered, data; he enhances the organizational culture and his  
honest management style contributed to a culture of integrity that not only attracted talent and  
retained employees, but filtered outward to stakeholders who also value fairness and  
transparency; and in summary, honesty and management is not just a moral choice, it is a  
strategic advantage that fosters trust, accountability, and long term success for an  
organization. She added trust, open communication, accountability, ethical decision making,  
improve morale and engagement, better decision making, and enhancing the organizational  
culture, and in hiring Mr. Liesenfelt as County Manager, she is confident that Brevard County  
would be the benefactor of the greatest strategic advantage of all, the many benefits of Mr.  
Liesenfelt’s honesty.  
Sarah Hodge stated it sounds like Mr. Liesenfelt is a wonderful person; she and her husband  
would like to see the process completed; if Mr. Liesenfelt is on that list and he is top, they would  
be very thankful; there are a lot of people who are concerned that the process is not being  
completed and the County spent a lot of money for this selection and it has not been finished; it  
would just be more assuring to everyone else out there if the Board were to complete the study;  
people will welcome Mr. Liesenfelt with open arms; she does not really know him personally,  
but he seems wonderful and she has heard wonderful things about him; and she asked the  
Board to please finish the process then everyone will be happy.  
Marcus Herman, Merritt Island Redevelopment Agency (MIRA) Chairman, expressed his  
appreciation to Commissioner Goodson for recognizing the value that Mr. Liesenfelt brings to  
this County, in setting forth this vote for the Board to consider today; he stated he is in favor of  
removing the interim status in front of Mr. Liesenfelt’s name and making him the designated  
County Manager for Brevard County; in his dealings with Mr. Liesenfelt while on the MIRA  
board, he has proven to be very competent and a very effective manager in all the different  
positions he has held through the years; he can also say that as business owner, he sees great  
value from hiring within; and by doing so, one plants the seed in the minds of other employees  
that here in Brevard County he or she too, can excel to the top of the their field, which in turn  
can be very good for morale and the over fulfillment of one’s current job. He continued by  
saying additionally, he thinks that by hiring Mr. Liesenfelt, he can hit the ground running; he has  
a tremendous array of institutional knowledge about this County and the unique issues it  
confronts; this is a huge asset that no other Candidate outside of the County will ever have;  
finally, because Brevard County already has a competent leader in this position and the County  
continues to struggle with funding, this will be a great way to save taxpayer money, by not  
spending the money trying to find someone else; and will all that said he does believe it is  
reasonable to question Mr. Liesenfelt’s sanity to consider the job.  
Rick Heffelfinger stated he is a little confused because he thought this Board had a vote to  
spend $35,000 on an outfit to do a search; everybody voted for that; he thinks the County  
already owes them the $35,000 because they got 53 candidates; and he asked if anyone can  
confirm the candidates that are lined up.  
Commissioner Delaney advised there are 60.  
Mr. Heffelfinger continued by saying he does not know why Commissioner Goodson did not say  
something earlier; he does not know why the Board is talking about this now; he does not know  
if Mr. Liesenfelt wants the job; he does not know where this is coming from, but there is a  
process, and they have 60 people; if the Board wants to avoid spending more money, then tell  
the agency to cease and desist and that it will evaluate the 60; if Mr. Liesenfelt wants it, let him  
put his name in; he would like to see resumes and then to have a selection; and if Mr.  
Liesenfelt is the number one guy then he is going to be the number one guy. He commented he  
also does not understand the request to say that the Board is going to pick Mr. Liesenfelt and  
he is going to go sit down with Mr. Richardson and talk about the salary; he asked if the guys  
doing the selection, negotiate salary, or do they not do that; he mentioned whoever it is, is  
going to cut a deal with Mr. Richardson, as the negotiation; he asked who is on the selection  
committee that picks that candidate, if the Board were to follow the process with the 60  
applicants that are ranked and filed, is it everybody on the Board; and he asked if there is  
anybody outside of the Board that ranks the applicants. He questioned if everybody on the  
Board gets to rank and stack and then move forward; he commented he would like to see the  
guys that did the selection, but they provide the Board all that and each Board Member has to  
read it over real good and do the ranking; that will stop them from bringing in other candidates,  
spending additional money; he has no idea how much was spent on these 60 people to fly  
them in because of the per-diam and the hotels; it is bigger than $35,000; the Board did not say  
how big it was, and he does not know how big it could get, but that sounds like they are trying  
to get a little extra money to get some more candidates; that is just how business is; but the  
Board can shut them off right now, tell him the Board wants Mr. Liesenfelt in there, as long as  
he wants to be in there, but he has not heard that from him; he does not understand why the  
Board is going to short-sheet this, it could have done that earlier; but if Mr. Liesenfelt gets it,  
since he did not raise his hand earlier, he thinks he should pay the $35,000 because the  
County went through a selection process, and if he wanted it, it should have been said, and the  
Board should have said it wanted that; and he does not know why the Board is back-tracking.  
He added he thinks that is the right thing to do. He noted he does not know Mr. Liesenfelt; he  
worked with former County Manager, Frank Abbate, and he has a history here; and that is  
great, but there are 60 people to look at.  
Kevin Jeffrey stated Thomas Payne said, “No country can be called free which is governed by  
absolute power; and it matters not whether it be an absolute royal power or absolute legislative  
power, as the consequences for the people are the same.” He continued by saying as County  
Commissioners, this Board is engaging in representative government, it is not the government,  
the people are the government; the American Constitution bestows all of the power on the  
people; this Board is supposed to be representing the people; as representatives for the  
people, it is committed to having an open search to replace the County Manager; it has spent  
$36,000 on a search firm with 60 applicants and still have an open window to receive more; if  
the Board freezes this process and appoint the Interim County Manager, this will be an affront  
to the people of Brevard County; they deserve better; and this Board will be circumventing the  
process. He went on to say there appears to be no valid reason for doing this; it actually has all  
the earmarks of cronyism; maintaining the public trust is important; a vote to suspend the  
County’s process will do serious damage to the public trust; when he was a boy he went to the  
store and over the counter there was a sign, “since man to man is so unjust, we know not men  
we ought to trust. We’ve trusted many to our sorrow, pay cash today, we’ll trust tomorrow”; and  
he would like to reverse that a little bit and say, “Politician to politician is so unjust. We know  
not politician we ought to trust. We’ve trusted many to our sorrow, let’s continue the process,  
we will trust tomorrow.”  
Sheriff Wayne Ivey, Brevard County Sheriff’s Office (BCSO), stated he has with him, Doug  
Waller and the Clerk of Courts; they stand before this Board and thank it for taking up this  
matter and hearing from them; they have all collectively had an opportunity to work with Mr.  
Liesenfelt, not just in this last budget process, but over the past 12 years as he has had the  
blessing of serving as the Brevard County Sheriff; he has always been an open door for him,  
and understanding of this community, the challenges that it faces, and the needs that it has;  
when there is someone at the helm that has demonstrated, the old saying ‘past performance  
predicts performance’ and Mr. Liesenfelt’s performance has been stellar for this community; he  
is dedicated and loves this place; and he agrees with Mr. Herman that there ought to be some  
type of exam on him to understand why he would be willing to do this. He continued by saying if  
this Board does not select him in this capacity them the Board Members should have their  
heads examined; he thinks he is right there ready to do the job and he knows the challenges;  
and he is proud to stand with him.  
Rachel Sadoff, Clerk of the Court and Comptroller, stated she has heard the people and what  
they are saying about looking for someone outside, but it says something about the community  
when it looks inside and grows its own leaders to then reach the point of being a County  
Manager; she thinks that is something that is said about how the County promotes within its  
community and for the people of Brevard; that provides hope to have jobs here that are secure  
and brings people to a level that they have hoped to achieve; and she hopes people will think  
about it that way. She noted she has worked with Mr. Liesenfelt; they get along and do well;  
they may not always agree and that is okay, that is still friendly disagreements; she does hope  
this Board votes for Mr. Liesenfelt to be the County Manager; she thinks he will represent all of  
his team well in this community and that he will work with all of the constitutional officers very  
well; and she thinks he will bring a breath of fresh air to what is needed today.  
Doug Waller, Deputy Sheriff BSCO, stated his parents taught him a long time ago to never  
miss an opportunity to brag on good people; he can honestly say the Sheriff has trusted him to  
work with the County Commission; he has worked with some incredible Commissions that gave  
him the opportunity to work with the County staff; he has worked with some outstanding staff;  
he has also worked with some incredible County Managers; he views Mr. Liesenfelt already as  
the County Manager; he apologizes for taking the vote ahead of the Board; he works with Mr.  
Liesenfelt on a daily basis; and this man treats his people well and his constituents fantastic.  
He went on to say they trust each other; when they have conversations they do not always  
agree, even good Sheriffs do not always agree with him, but the opportunity is always given to  
say what he needs to say; he trusts this man; and he has put himself in a position of value and  
he trusts that value. He expressed his appreciation for being allowed to speak.  
Jim Liesenfelt, Interim County Manager, stated to forgive him as he stumbles, he is not good in  
talking about himself; he was asked why he was not interested before; he has had a couple of  
health issues; he will be straight out and honest, he does suffer from migraines; he thought  
they would be an issue, but he has not had one in several months, which makes him happier;  
Tad Calkins, Assistant County Manager, is newer in the position and he has brought Jill Hayes  
up; he loves working with both of them and they work way better than he could have ever  
hoped; they are in and out of each other’s offices all day long; that went way better than he  
thought; they have a wonderful set of Department heads; they have great staff here; and in two  
months they did not think they would get the firefighters Contract in front of the Board as  
quickly as they did. He noted that all came together, a good working group along with the  
firefighters; they did the budgets; he is proud of the budget that has been balanced; they met  
with each Commissioner individually even after the workshops; he wishes it was not everything  
that was presented, but it got done; and in those couple months they have discovered they can  
get the job done and that they will do a good job for the County. He mentioned he was a  
summer intern in 1990; he graduated from Indiana University with a degree in Public Affairs,  
which is one of the top public administration programs in the country; he came back in 1991 to  
work in the Transit Services Department; they could not figure out how to get rid of him and he  
became Transit Services Director in 1997; he hopes somebody is listening, at the age of 29, he  
became the youngest Director; under his leadership, their ridership on a fixed-route went from  
250,000 passenger trips per year to 2.2 million passenger trips per year; that would not have  
happened without the crew; that is not leadership, that is a bunch of hard working people; they  
had implemented beach trolley Saturday service, expanded the volunteers emotion program,  
did a bunch of that stuff, they won national and State marketing awards, too numerous to  
count, and the most prestigious award was being named the best small transit system in the  
nation in 2003; they have had three employees that he has worked with in the Transit  
Department who have become Department directors; they work very hard to promote within  
and support the County; and most importantly, they have had six different bus drivers to be  
named bus driver of the year in the State of Florida. He mentioned he works hard to promote  
people; as the Assistant County Manager, one of the biggest projects they did was to get the  
golf courses off of the tax rolls; Savannah’s went back to the community; Golf Brevard  
manages the other two; he would put those contractors up against anybody, but they are no  
longer subsidizing the golf courses; in the last few years he has had to staff the Redistricting  
Committee, as staff of staff, which was chaired by Speaker Steve Crisafulli; he staffed the  
Charter Review Committee which was chaired by now Congressman Mike Haridopolis; they  
have focused a lot on infrastructure, library, parks, and transit; in 30 years he has worked with  
30 Commissioners, and if counting former Commissioners Voltz and Altman, it would be 32  
because they were both on the Board twice; and he has had many excellent bosses because  
one picks up mentors, but does not know they are mentors, which include Perry Maull, Jim  
Brown, Don Lusk, Stockton Whitten, and Frank Abbate; and people who inspired him to do  
better, Sharon Luba, Kathy Schweinsberg, Kathy Wall, Wendy Ellis, Cathy Lively, Mary Ellen  
Donner, and those are just some of those he will not forget; staff works together, and as a  
leader, he has always looked at it as his responsibility to provide the resources that staff needs,  
and then step aside and allow them to get the job done; and that is how he works.  
Commissioner Delaney stated this is not personal to Mr. Liesenfelt at all; he has done a great  
job as the interim; she just really feels that this Board made a decision together to do a search,  
do its due diligence, and make sure that they have the best candidate; she just does not  
believe that it should deny him nor the public the opportunity to prove that he is the best  
candidate; it feels like the Board is just giving something away; and this is probably the most  
important decision that this Board is going to make together. She noted she wants to be able to  
look at herself in the mirror and say that she knew without a shadow of a doubt that this Board  
made the best decision for the County Manager moving forward; she cannot do that right now  
because she has not had the opportunity to play out the process; she is not saying that good  
work has not been done with the budget and the firefighters Contract; a lot of people were  
involved in that; there has to be a balanced budget every year; she is not saying that is not hard  
work; there are 60 applicants who have put in the work to put together an application and put  
their neck on the line; and some of them are probably even currently employed and are putting  
their employment at risk just applying for this job. She commented when she spoke to the  
consultant today, there are 10 strong candidates and solid representation from Florida; there  
are some from outside from what she was told, she does not know the specifics; she was told  
there are a solid group of candidates; she would be happy to see Mr. Liesenfelt’s name among  
those candidates; she feels as though this is doing a disservice to him and to the public by not  
following through with this process; and she is asking for the Board to discuss this a little bit  
because she has not heard any explanation or thoughts other than what was placed in the  
Agenda. She commented Chairman Feltner mentioned on Thursday last week that the Board  
would have robust discussion around this; and she would really appreciate that.  
Chairman Feltner stated he thinks he said the Board would take the time it needs in response  
to that being brought up during Planning and Zoning.  
Commissioner Altman stated he can appreciate what everybody is saying on both sides of the  
issues; he would like to explain why he thinks the Board should make Mr. Liesenfelt the County  
Administrator and why the Board did the search; he does not think that was wasted money or  
wasted time to do a search; the Board needed to have that search as soon as possible  
because it is a very important position and it needs to be filled; what the Board did not know  
when it made that decision to have a search was how Mr. Liesenfelt would react to the role as  
being the Interim County Manager; and he thinks he has done an exemplary job. He went on to  
say yes, there was a search and there are 60 candidates; there still needs to be a negotiation  
with Mr. Liesenfelt and if that does not work out, then there is a backup; it was not money  
wasted, it was a process the Board needed to go through; this is a process that the Board  
needs to go through; he thinks the Board needs to appoint him; it is not a great County  
Manager that makes the County great or any government, it is a team and how that team works  
together; and when Mr. Liesenfelt took this job from the very first day, he noticed something  
very special with Brevard County, it has a remarkably talented team. He went on to say he saw  
how they responded to Mr. Liesenfelt; he saw the way they worked and the way they  
responded to a new administrator; and he has experienced that twice in his political career; he  
realized that Brevard County has something very special; and he thinks the County has  
something very special amongst this Commission, it does not always agree, but this has been  
probably one of the most trying times that this County has ever faced with the firefighters and  
revenue shortfalls, and this Board has really risen to the occasion. He commented he thinks Mr.  
Liesenfelt relationship with the Board, as well, not only with his staff, has proven to be  
something exemplary; there are probably some really talented people on that list of 60  
candidates that could be considered; one thing the Board does not know, and could never  
know, is how that person would fit within the team, how he or she would respond to a  
management team that he feels is performing at a very top level; he does not know that and is  
not willing to take that risk, to lose a known commodity to go with an unknown; and he fully  
supports the Interim Administrator and he hopes staff can work out an agreement. He added  
he sees Mr. Liesenfelt’s commitment to Brevard County and the organization and he will  
whole-heartedly support this appointment. He reiterated he does not think this was a waste of  
time; the Board is in the midst of a process that it needed to go through; this is a part of that  
process; and it needs to put this issue to rest, to make a decision, because there is a lot of  
work to do. He stated he was trying to think of a sports analogy, when a quarterback gets hurt  
or retires and one puts its back up in and he or she starts performing at this amazing level and  
the team rallies around them, and they are winning, that guy is not going to be placed on the  
bench or traded and bring in an unknown, it is going to go with that guy; he did receive a big  
endorsement with the prior administrator, who appointed him in the number two position as  
well; Brevard County has a winning team; and he wants to keep it that way.  
Commissioner Adkinson stated the Board has heard from not enough staff; she received an  
email from a previous Director of Brevard County staff, Steven Darling, and she would like to  
read a few excerpts from the email she received from him; he said he worked with Mr.  
Liesenfelt for several years and found him to be an exceptional leader; his ability to listen and  
process all available information prior to making decisions is second to none; he would often  
seek his counsel to get another perspective because he knew going to him he would get  
informed and unbiased opinions; he said he is confident that there is no better candidate  
qualified to be placed into this position and he knows that Mr. Liesenfelt is an exceptional  
candidate who understands the needs and priorities of Brevard County better than anyone else;  
and he and his family support the Commission confirming him as the next County Manager.  
She commented she can say from her own perspective, she was nervous being a new  
Commissioner, having a new County Manager, but the transition has been seamless; when she  
talked to him in several conversations, his ability to notice staff’s ability and aptitude is just  
amazing because he is aware of their capabilities and their strengths; and like he had stated a  
couple minutes ago, it is to pull that out and then get out of the way and let them do their job;  
and that is something a new County Manager would have to take quite a bit of time to  
understand and recognize the value in all of the County staff. She could go on and on but she  
is just going to say she would definitely support Mr. Liesenfelt as the next County Manager.  
Commissioner Goodson stated the way he read the Contract with the people doing the search,  
at any time the Board could say stop and that would stop it; it is not going to spend $30,000 or  
$35,000, it can be stopped at any point because it was set up in increments; and he asked if  
that is correct.  
Mr. Liesenfelt advised there is a termination clause of 14 days; they finished two parts of their  
Contract; therefore, the County would not owe them the entire amount.  
Commissioner Goodson asked what two parts of the contract was, $16,000.  
Mr. Liesenfelt answered $4,000 and $16,000.  
Chairman Feltner stated he appreciates the historical perspective of all of the County staff; he  
has the great privilege of being the Commissioner in this complex; maybe some of the staff  
thinks that it is a curse; but he shows up in staff’s offices a lot and everyone here has been  
incredibly gracious to him; he thinks he is a smart guy and he comes in, when it was Frank, and  
he would tell him his great ideas and Frank would say you know Commissioner they tried that  
20 years ago and the Board at that time decided whatever; it was a good process because he  
would go home and think about that and come back the next day with something better; he  
values that and he has it with Mr. Liesenfelt; he has 34 years in the County, not including the  
internship; and he thinks that says a lot that he is willing to undertake this. He added Mr.  
Liesenfelt can move forward with his support; and if the Board votes for Mr. Liesenfelt tonight,  
tomorrow morning will just be another day at work in Brevard County.  
Commissioner Delaney stated she appreciates all of the Boards thoughts and sharing that; she  
has had many people reach out to her with concerns about hiring somebody that has been with  
the County for so long; there are a lot of people out there suffering and they are worried that it  
is just going to continue; there were people that were very hopeful when this Board talked  
about and voted on going out for a national search, finding somebody that could bring a new  
perspective, that could bring fresh ideas; she is not saying that Mr. Liesenfelt cannot do that as  
well; she has had some great experiences and she has had some not so great experiences in  
her time here; she feels like there is a little bit of ’I’ve been here or so long and I know what is  
going on without so much follow through of let’s get to the nitty gritty of saying no to a  
Commissioner, like is it a big enough deal’; and she will provide an example. She explained she  
had a constituent come to her office and they were talking about one of the issues that they  
were having and they had asked her how many people work in that Department; she  
responded she was not sure but she would check it out; she went to the organizational chart  
and it did not have Full Time Employees (FTE’s) on it; then she found out she would have to go  
through the budget book, which is hundreds of pages, read through the narrative, and figure  
out how many people are working in the Department; she called the County Manger and said  
there are some other counties that place the FTEs on their organizational chart, and she  
thought that would be a really cool thing to do and it would give people one-stop shop to find a  
quick answer to that question; she was told no because he likes it the way it is and that she  
would have to get Board approval to put an FTE on an organizational chart; and she knows it  
seems like a small thing, but she is saying what if it was a big thing, this Board is supposed to  
be here to serve the public, to make it easier for them, so people can just click on the  
organizational chart and find their answers. She went on to say the organizational chart is a  
pretty good one with the phone numbers and all that; this could have just given it a little extra  
something, and not have mattered to pretty much anyone; she feels like this Board is shorting  
itself if it is not going to give itself the opportunity to see if there is anybody out there who would  
like to come to the Space Coast and make this place their home, and that has fresh ideas, new  
perspectives, and new horizons to where they could help this County work itself out of the  
situation that it has gotten itself into, after decades of doing whatever it has been doing; like  
she said, it is not that she does not think Mr. Liesenfelt should have put in an application and  
show the Board that he is up for it and wants to do it, because there was multiple times she  
was told he does not want to do it; and only after elected officials came and asked, but this is a  
decision that this Board is supposed to make. She stated the Board told its constituents that  
this was a decision that the Board Members were going to make; it agreed upon a pathway  
forward; and if this is the way this is going to go tonight, she would have loved for this to  
happen behind closed doors in an interview process, but she is going to need to ask some  
questions so that she can say to her constituents that she did everything she could to make  
sure the Board has the best person in place; and she has a couple of questions for Mr.  
Liesenfelt. She asked what his vision is for Brevard County tomorrow.  
Mr. Liesenfelt replied, he is not a visionary on it, but there are a number of things on the  
immediate that needs to be addressed; the budget is not finalized, it will depend on  
implementing Board direction; the Board voted on different millages and it has to finalize that;  
staff has to work on maintaining its quality workforce with employee development; there are  
landfills, water plants to build; they have to maintain the roads; the Board heard today about the  
canals and ditches, and he has been out with some of the crew understanding some of the  
processes that are there; Save Our Indian River Lagoon (SOIRL) is coming to an end and  
everyone will have to decide from the Board if it wants to continue funding SOIRL; there is a lot  
of infrastructure to deal with; there are referendum projects from parks that are 25 years old,  
libraries 20 to 30 years old, and a bunch of other buildings; and there is the detention center  
that they have to keep on top of that. He continued by saying there is increased tourism to deal  
with; Public Safety remains a priority, the proposed budget that was sent to the Board that is a  
number one priority listening to the Board; that is the main vision; they will continue on; and  
there will always be hurricanes and other natural disasters to face so staff has to be up and  
ready for that.  
Commissioner Delaney stated as far as the Fire Department goes, the 24/72 schedule is  
something that is becoming a standard around the State; and she asked if Mr. Liesenfelt is  
willing, with Board direction, to get to a place where Brevard County firefighters can be offered  
Kelly Days.  
Mr. Liesenfelt stated he will not really answer that directly because that would be part of  
negotiation and a bit of overstepping today; he has had conversations with several; and staff  
knows where the market is going to compete for firefighters, so the Board knows what the  
future looks like.  
Commissioner Delaney commented she will not go into detail but some of the employee issues  
that she and Mr. Liesenfelt have talked about, is he willing to look into these things and not just  
in a Director level, and do his due diligence in making sure that he has the whole story from all  
parties before a decision is made.  
Mr. Liesenfelt stated he if could go backwards, he also forgot to add not only where the market  
is going for firefighters, they know where the market is going for deputies and law enforcement  
so they have to face that issue as well; personnel, there is a process; he can say one Director  
they had they called him on the carpet for a situation; the Director went through a number of  
things; but there is a process and as he explained on the one, they had the County Attorney’s  
Office involved, Human Resources involved, himself and Mr. Calkins involved, and nothing  
would happen until all their eyes are on it; one cannot jump all the way down or overrule and tell  
a Supervisor what to do when they have been through the process, but one can oversee and  
provide direction that way; there is a process for employees; and looking into those two  
situations, he was satisfied the way it was handled and he said that, but he also followed up  
with those Departments explaining where he saw some issues.  
Commissioner Delaney asked as far as North Brevard goes, she will call it a flooding crisis to  
say the least; she had a townhall meeting where over 200 people showed up a week and  
one-half ago; and Mr. Liesenfelt does not have to go in depth to what the plan is, but does she  
have his commitment to help North Brevard find a way through this, giving the direction and  
leadership to help solve this problem in North Brevard.  
Mr. Liesenfelt replied he explained to her on the phone that there is water movement all  
throughout the County; there is North Merritt Island they have to keep an eye on; West Cocoa  
and unincorporated Rockledge area, in the old days Lamp Lighter Village, so yes, staff is  
always going to have to focus on what it has to do to help with the flooding; it all depends on  
resources, Bach McClure, Stormwater Program Manager for Natural Resources Management,  
was up there, and he comes back with solutions; and one has to try to give him and his team,  
and Public Works, the resources and then get out of their way to get the job done.  
Commissioner Delaney commented that she hopes Mr. Liesenfelt understands where she is  
coming from and that she understands where this is going tonight; she appreciates him  
stepping into the hot seat and putting himself out there for the public; and with that she will let  
Commissioner Goodson make the motion, but she would like to second it.  
Commissioner Goodson moved to appoint Mr. Liesenfelt to be the County Manager; appoint  
Chairman Feltner and County Attorney, Morris Richardson, to work out the details of a contract;  
and to bring the contract back to the Board at a future meeting.  
The Board appointed Interim County Manager, Jim Liesenfelt, as County Manager; and  
appointed the Board Chairman and County Attorney to work out the details of the contract to be  
brought back to the Board at a future meeting.  
Result: APPROVED  
Mover: Tom Goodson  
Seconder: Katie Delaney  
Ayes: Delaney, Goodson, Adkinson, Feltner, and Altman  
K.  
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Individuals may not speak under both the first and second  
public comment sections.)  
Ronald Thompson stated he came tonight to talk about an Agreement that was approved by  
the previous Commission on December 3, 2021; this project was also talked about last year  
when Commissioners Goodson and Feltner were on the Commission, when the Commission  
was to approve a project that was joint this and changing zoning from residential to B1; this  
project was discussed in detail; the project was an Agreement with D.R. Horton for a traffic  
impact credit and it exchanged for improvements on Minton and Hill Road; normal routine  
business to do so forever; but for whatever reason, they gave this developer three years to  
complete this project, two years to start it then an additional year to complete it. He noted that  
is very abnormal; he does not know of another case in the County that has done that; it has  
been three years and the project is at a standstill; just to bring the Board up to date, this project  
was completed by the developer in March 2023 per the Tax Assessors photograph; then it was  
sold to another Canadian Company for $79 million, so he does not think economics is the  
reason; but for himself and other residents, they have made many calls and emails to  
Commissioner Altman’s office seeking information and advice about this project, and the last  
call he received and email was dated August 8, just last Thursday or Friday. He went on to say  
the quote from the email, his Chief of Staff, read, “I spoke with Commissioner Altman and went  
over all the details with him. He completely agrees that delays have been frustrating and he  
hopes that we can wrap this project up soon, however, with that said, I have explained in the  
email that there is nothing he can do to accelerate this project. He is at the mercy of the  
contractor and for these reasons he felt a meeting would not be productive and therefore, not  
needed at this time.” He went on to say in paragraph 10, Section D, which he has a copy of that  
specifically states, “The City and County shall review this project agreement, not less than once  
every 12 months and in good faith compliance with the agreement. If the developer fails to  
comply with the terms of this Agreement, the Agreement can be revoked or modified”; the  
Commissioners are not at the mercy of the contractor; and he regrets that Commissioner  
Altman would not take his call and said it was not needed. He commented that he is here  
tonight because of Commissioner Altman failing to take his call, as well as others; yes, this is  
wasting his time, the Board’s time, and everybody else’s time to hear him complain about this;  
this project is done and has passed the three-year commitment; it has been 40 days since one  
shovel of dirt has been moved on that project; and he would like to know his three questions:  
why has this project been neglected…  
Commissioner Altman stated he has had lengthy conversations with his staff; his staff has bent  
over backwards to work with the residents there on these issues…  
Mr. Thompson stated he totally agrees with Commissioner Altman’s staff, Danielle Stern, with  
answering emails, the problem is there have been no results.  
Commissioner Altman stated he does not think there is anyone who has fought for the quality  
of life on Hill Road more than he has as an elected official; he is committed to that; it is not like  
his office has not done anything, they are working; he would not say it is not necessary they do  
something, it is probably premature; he asked if Marc Bernath, Public Works Director, could  
maybe address the issue in a little more detail from the County’s perspective because staff has  
also been working on the issue; and he appreciates Mr. Thompson being there. He commented  
it is not like they have done nothing; they are fully aware of it; and he would like for Mr. Bernath  
to address it.  
Mr. Thompson asked why this has not been done before.  
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Mr. Bernath stated as the Commissioner knows, he and his staff have talked extensively with  
Ms. Stern; this is a development project, it is not a capital improvement project where staff can  
hold them accountable to a certain time; staff cannot exert LDs or anything like that; he does  
not have it in front of him, but it is a multi-party Agreement with the City where it is actually a  
project, he believes it is townhouses or apartments, and the County’s ability is very limited; that  
does not mean staff is not engaged; and they are frequently talking to the developer and trying  
to get this project to fruition.  
Morris Richardson, County Attorney, advised Mr. Bernath is correct; this a project within the  
jurisdictional limits of the City of West Melbourne; there were some intersection improvements  
that are required on Minton Road, which is the County facility; the Agreement Mr. Thompson is  
referring to is just an Impact Fee Credit Reimbursement Agreement; if the developer constructs  
the improvements as required, they are eligible for impact fee reimbursement; that is the  
County’s involvement in it; as far as the requirements, that is sort of a carrot; the stick is with  
the City of West Melbourne who permitted the development, they have the development  
approvals and things like that; this is an Impact Fee Agreement; and as Mr. Bernath said, this is  
not something the County contracted fro work to be performed, but rather it was okayed by the  
developer because some of the improvements being required to be done or capacity  
improvements, to some extent, are eligible for impact fee reimbursement. He added he is sure  
staff will review those and make sure if they have not complied with terms of the Agreement,  
then they are not eligible for impact fee reimbursement; and he will work with the Commission  
Office and with staff; he was actually with the City of West Melbourne back when that  
Agreement was entered so he is very familiar with it from that perspective; however, he does  
not know the status of the project out there these days.  
Mr. Thompson stated he heard what was said but what is going to be done about it.  
Commissioner Altman advised he thinks the only thing that can be done because it is the City  
of West Melbourne that had this development agreement, that would enforce it; he did mention  
the impact fee credits could be affected as a result; that is significant; but right now that is all  
this Board can do, and he thinks his staff has communicated that a lot; he thinks eventually it  
will be worked out; he thinks those impact fee credits mean a lot; but he is optimistic and will  
continue to work with Mr. Thompson and monitor the situation.  
Mr. Thompson pointed out it said the City and the County shall agree yearly; and he asked if  
that has been done. He commented one can build a 300-unit apartment in a year and one-half,  
but it cannot build a road in over three years; they have not done anything in the last 40 days; it  
looks like a junkyard the way those things are out there now; it is a safety hazard, the cones  
are down, the flags are flying the air, and the barricades are down; and he just cannot  
understand why somebody cannot have action.  
Commissioner Altman inquired if Mr. Thompson has talked to the City of West Melbourne.  
Mr. Thompson informed he has not.  
Commissioner Altman advised he thinks that is where Mr. Thompson needs to go next because  
they are the ones that gave the development order and they are the ones that gave the  
permits; and he asked if that is correct.  
Mr. Thompson commented if Commissioner Altman read this contract, the County is very much  
involved, he could be all wrong, but he does not think so.  
Attorney Richardson pointed out the County had to approve permits because it is a County  
facility, Minton Road, where the improvements were being made; it is a city permitting issue; he  
was not aware of this, but he would be happy to look at it and talk to the City of West  
Melbourne’s staff to figure out what is going on; and he will get back to Commissioner Altman  
on that.  
Mr. Thompson stated if the Board Members would take five minutes to return a citizen’s call, it  
will save time, more than what it takes to make that phone call, all he got was excuses; M.  
Stern had done a tremendous job of answering questions, not just his, but many other  
residents; he regrets that she had not been able to give him more detailed information; and if  
Commissioner Altman thinks West Melbourne is holding this up, one can bet there will be a lot  
of phone calls tomorrow.  
L.1. Jim Liesenfelt, Interim County Manager  
Jim Liesenfelt, County Manager, stated he came across a quote from St. Augustine, he reads a  
lot about humility, “Those who work with their hands know that to carry a weight safely, it is best  
not to lift it too far from the ground.”; with all the County employees, the Directors, the County  
Manager’s Office, everyone will support each other and ensure that the weight is carried safely  
and together, and not have to carry it too far to provide the best for the residence and the  
County; he is humbled; and he expressed his appreciation for the Board’s vote today.  
L.5. Kim Adkinson, Commissioner District 3  
Commissioner Adkinson stated she just wanted to acknowledge that yesterday Governor Ron  
DeSantis came to congratulate Brevard County on the newly completed weir at the Crane  
Creek Project; there was a lot of County staff there, Commissioners there, and it just shows  
that what this County does for improvement of the Lagoon is not going unnoticed; and he  
promised to continue to support the County in that endeavor.  
L.7. Rob Feltner, Commissioner District 4, Chairman  
Chairman Feltner congratulated Jim Liesenfelt on his position to County Manager. He  
mentioned that today they have the second installment of the Space Coast Government  
Television and Human Resources recruitment and employee Spotlight Campaign; as  
Communications Director, Don Walker had said in a previous Board meeting, these videos  
were put together through a summer internship program over the past three months and they  
will be used in a variety of ways throughout the year to help recruit new employees to Brevard  
County Government; and today’s video features Jamaine McWhite from Mosquito Control  
Department. He noted he met Mr. McWhite and spent part of the day with him; they removed  
some tires with the Waterway Warriors from the river; they were at Cocoa Beach utility services  
area where they have a ramp; he does not go out in boats so they were on the receiving end of  
all the tires being dropped off; if anyone happens to see that video, Jamaine was there and  
they had spent several hours together unloading tires from a boat and placing them on a  
forklift; and he actually is very enthusiastic, he kind of downplayed it in the video a little bit, but  
he enjoyed the day with him.  
Adjourn  
Upon consensus of the Board, the meeting adjourned at 7:11 p.m.  
ATTEST:  
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RACHEL M. SADOFF, CLERK  
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ROB FELTNER, CHAIRMAN  
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS  
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA